quick reveiw of my 20min in Thors

[NIX]

+7 Peno shield does ok.
very do-able
about 100k exp per one assumption on my 1st try

fun fun fun

120 str with dynamo-aura blade = about 8.8k peircing


and WING WHENEVER YOU SEE GUARDIANS period

[Oswald]

+7 Peno shield does ok.
very do-able
about 100k exp per one assumption on my 1st try

fun fun fun

120 str with dynamo-aura blade = about 8.8k peircing


and WING WHENEVER YOU SEE GUARDIANS period

Can you kill kasa well without spear dynamo? How much hit do you have (you can just tell your aprox. hit)

[NIX]

Can you kill kasa well without spear dynamo? How much hit do you have (you can just tell your aprox. hit)

i have 165 HIT and i was missing 1-2times per kasa when spear dynamo ran out.

[Rav]

I went there with just an iron cain on and took 10, 000 per hit from the imps. I was going to post screenshots of it without stating my gear but now I can't upload them so whatever, that was my adventure.

[Quad]

imageshack? :/

[NIX]

exp confirmed.

5.5mil/hr when you get used to it

thats from:
89LK
120str + SD + AB
Alice buck
+10 2x vadon 2x pecoegg pike
+8 ifrit chain
165 HIT (without SD)

[devo1]

How do you think the exp would be with say, a peno buckler? And how exactly did you level there? Did you fwing around piercing only kasas, and then going back to inn for sp and rewarping? How many pots do you normally burn through in an hour?

[NIX]

How do you think the exp would be with say, a peno buckler? And how exactly did you level there? Did you fwing around piercing only kasas, and then going back to inn for sp and rewarping? How many pots do you normally burn through in an hour?

i did my first round with peno. as i said before, it is do-able. just watch out your assumption and Guardians cuz with peno and 63 def and assumption i took about 7-8k Spearboom from guardian and it is the first thing they do when they see you.

I wing around to pierce kasa only. i look for max of 3 kasa. but 1 is just good for exp and whites you use.

i use around 50 whites average per assumption. assumption last about 100sec so you do the math lol.

i bring 250 whites 60fwings 30bwings and 5 serk

[Goblin Hero]

Why not just spam fresh fish like a motherfcka, and um did you have any buffs?? and were u wearing immune or jakk mant??

[Elmador]

currently on my 93 Lk im making 8mil an hour

130 Str + SD
Alice Valk
+10 2x vadon 1x pecoegg 1x mino pike
+7 Ifrit Silk
161 hit without dynamo

[Elmador]

Also, I have a buff slave priest and i use immune because the physical damage hurts me alot more than their fire attacks.

I bring 300 whites 120 wings 30 b.wings and 5 zerks per.

To Gob, I tried to spam fresh fish and it wasnt able to heal fast enough... so I switched to whites.

[Spidey]

Use fireproof potions!

[Rav]

imageshack? :/

I couldn't access the screenshots from class on a computer I was using there because my laptop's connection was down, so therefore I could not upload them.

[Oswald]

Use fireproof potions!

Would it stack with ifrit armor?

[Atum]

Would it stack with ifrit armor?
When you wear ifritarmor and fireproof pot and a monster attacks you with a fireattack the damage is first reduced by 75% because of fire armor and then from the remaining 25% firedamage there is a 20%(?) reduction because of fireproof pot.

[Rav]

What Atum said presented differently and with the total:
Ifrit armor: -75% fire damage
Fire resist pot: -20% fire damage

Receiving fire property damage with ifrit & a fire resist pot, you take:
100 x .25 x .80 (since they do not stack) = 20% damage from all fire property attacks (aka 80% resistance).

[Atum]

What Atum said presented differently and with the total:
Ifrit armor: -75% fire damage because of element
Fire resist pot: -20% fire damage because of reductionmodifier

Receiving fire property damage with ifrit & a fire resist pot, you take:
100 x .25 x .80 (since element and modifier do not stack) = 20% damage from all fire property attacks (aka 80% resistance).
A little fixed to make everything clear ;)

If you wear ifrit, jakkgarment and resi pot it should be
Ifritarmor : -75% because of element
Fireproofpot : -20% because of reductionmodifier
Jakkcard : -30% because of reductionmodifier

100 x 0.25 x 0.5 = 12,5% damage from fireattacks


If you wear ifrit, jakkgarment,valk shield and resi pot it should be
Ifritarmor : -75% because of element
Fireproofpot : -20% because of reductionmodifier
Jakkcard : -30% because of reductionmodifier
Valk shield : -20% because of reductionmodifier

100 x 0.25 x 0.3 = 7,5% damage from fireattacks


If you wear ifrit, jakkgarment,valk shield and resi pot and you are a blacksmith/mastersmith it should be
Ifritarmor : -75% because of element
Fireproofpot : -20% because of reductionmodifier
Jakkcard : -30% because of reductionmodifier
Valk shield : -20% because of reductionmodifier
Skin Tempering : -20% because of reductionmodifier

100 x 0.25 x 0.1 = 2,5% damage from fireattacks

[Ergroilnin]

Well If you are BS or MS just add Wielding Mask take off pasana and you are still immune to fire attacks :p

[Cubical]

+7 Peno shield does ok.
very do-able
about 100k exp per one assumption on my 1st try

fun fun fun

120 str with dynamo-aura blade = about 8.8k peircing


and WING WHENEVER YOU SEE GUARDIANS period

what lvl pierce you using?

[Dr. Azzy]

Uhh, he's using lvl 10 pierce, nobody gets anything less than 10...

I've been lvling there as well, pulling 4-6m exp/hr Exp depends ALOT on how conveniently located the monsters are. Sometimes the monsters are all crowded around guardians, and you have a very hard time finding any to kill, other times you 're piercing kasas nonstop until your assu runs out.
And yes, assu is a must, and endow of course, but that goes without saying.

I burn like 600-800 whites per hr.
-Az

[Rav]

Nobody gets anything less than 10? lol?
Edit: my post was also supposed to read:
"Anyway, pierce 5 with 170 str should be like pierce 10 with 130. I don't think I'd reset to level due to the fact I have no agi, and that I only need 3.5 more jobs for spear boom maxed, after which I'm pretty much done." or something like, not sure why it wasn't included.

[night_knight]

I feel like pointing out there there are multiple instant kasa spawns on floor 1 (I heard this from a guildie who camped one). I haven't been down to Thor's much, but apparently there's an instant kasa somewhere near the entrance. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

[Dimp]

there are a few that i have found ... the one right near the entrance has about a 50% chance to spawn below though .... also they arnt quite like high wiz spawns as they are spaced out a lot more but its kinda possible to camp one if you can make all the other crap stop walking on you

[Goblin Hero]

Is any1 using Bm?? Cuz in that vid of the lk soloing thor he killed like 26 kasa in 10mins, do the math about 7mil an hour, and his pierce dmg was shit also, 7mil with Bm thats like 10mil an hour. So yeah my question is any1 using Bm??

[Dimp]

i was getting about 12 using a BM ... i only use it when i have a nice setup though

[Goblin Hero]

Dimp what weapon are u using??

[devo1]

That's some pretty intense exp, is it plausible using normal white pots, or are they going to need to be ranked in order to outheal the damage from Kasas?

[night_knight]

That's some pretty intense exp, is it plausible using normal white pots, or are they going to need to be ranked in order to outheal the damage from Kasas?
Furthermore, is that possible without a formless shield?

[Oswald]

Furthermore, is that possible without a formless shield?

No, you really need that shield. You will die in mere seconds without it.

[Dimp]

yea you need the shield ... i use a 2x1x1 +10 Pike with a Alice shield ... also i cheat and use a meg which means about 12200 pierces with my str ....

White pots work fine ... i like them as i dont have to spam quite as much as fish ... and i use aprox 1k/hour .... which i guess for some ppl is a lot, but if you think about the exp your getting its not that expensive

[night_knight]

Nearly 1 mil zeny in whites per hour? Do you even get a small fraction of that back from the drops?

[StealthFire]

Well If you are BS or MS just add Wielding Mask take off pasana and you are still immune to fire attacks :p

:eek::eek::eek:

(i just realised you aren't kidding)

That really brings down the power of professors and meteor storm in WoE :/

Does this mean smiths are the best candidates for tanking MS-spamming MVPs? :D

[Dimp]

night to answer your question i have made over 25m in kasa drops so far ^.~

[night_knight]

night to answer your question i have made over 25m in kasa drops so far ^.~
Oh wow, how long have you been leveling there, and how much have the drops been going for?

[Dimp]

lol a while ... 3 fire armors and a s.earring so far

[night_knight]

lol a while ... 3 fire armors and a s.earring so far
I suppose my real question is, have the drops covered the cost of whites? If it's too close to tell, that's fine too.

[Tam]

Any RS Paladins tried duo-ing here yet?

[Dimp]

lol thats like 35m worth of drops ... and i have used 15m worth of pots now ^.~

[Fish]

215 flee owns RS imo.

[Goblin Hero]

yea you need the shield ... i use a 2x1x1 +10 Pike with a Alice shield ... also i cheat and use a meg which means about 12200 pierces with my str ....

White pots work fine ... i like them as i dont have to spam quite as much as fish ... and i use aprox 1k/hour .... which i guess for some ppl is a lot, but if you think about the exp your getting its not that expensive


Dimp whats ur total str with the meg??

[night_knight]

lol thats like 35m worth of drops ... and i have used 15m worth of pots now ^.~
Oh wow... too bad those drops only add up to 11 mil on Sakray. :( But then again, I'd be getting twice as many, so it might be worth it. Just need to somehow get the 50+ mil to buy the stuff I need and then I'll try Thor's out myself!

[Expt626]

215 flee owns RS imo. yea thats whats bugging me =\

[Cubical]

Those fire armors may not come down to much, since they're only equipable by swordman and merc classes, no slot. I saw a few on market but it doesnt look like their selling.

[Dimp]

so far i have found 4 and sold 3 of them ... found the last one yesterday though so havent gotten a chance to vend ... each sell the price goes a lil lower, but i am still making good money on them 12m,10m,7m so far ... pays for a LOT of pots ... plus the s.earring i sold for 4m
I havent gotten even close to spending 33m on pots yet

[Cubical]

lil lower, but i am still making good money on them 12m,10m,7m so far

As people continue to populate the map, its to be expected...get any lesser elemental rings?

how many hours/ pots do you generally use per trip?

[Dimp]

bout 1000 whites ... depends though ... if i dont tele much its lower and if i tele a lot its higher ... the exp really never changes for me since loki doesnt really lvl there (generally there is me + 1 or 2 parties max) but sometimes if there is a guardian at the door or something i have to tele more then i would otherwise and that burns more pots

[Cubical]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1OCPUANOgQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPH248ISth8

[Goblin Hero]

I hit 97 last night, and I was pulling in about 14mil an hour.
Im not even gonna say how many whites I used, how that lk was spamming fish and piercing for 6k. I dont know how he did it.

[Doddler]

I pulled off level 90 -> 91 in 2 hours in thor 1. Its pretty messy, and its expensive because I don't have a peno or alice at all. I think I burned roughly 3k+ pots... but it was quite worth it I think.

Finding the instant zones are good... Its not just near the entrance, I think atleast half the monsters down there are zoned. The entrance has 2 (although they can spawn below), there's about 3 separate ones in the first big room, and a few spread out in each of the other rooms (I noticed alot when killing ones along the right side especially). Unfortunately I only last until assumptio drops or I run out of sp (which is roughly the same time), when I have to warp back for inn recovery. I've had some success in taking down 4-5 at once with bowling bash, but that requires craaaazy pot spamming to live without peno.

I hit for roughly 10k per pierce.

[Cubical]

I pulled off level 90 -> 91 in 2 hours in thor 1. Its pretty messy, and its expensive because I don't have a peno or alice at all. I think I burned roughly 3k+ pots... but it was quite worth it I think.

Finding the instant zones are good... Its not just near the entrance, I think atleast half the monsters down there are zoned. The entrance has 2 (although they can spawn below), there's about 3 separate ones in the first big room, and a few spread out in each of the other rooms (I noticed alot when killing ones along the right side especially). Unfortunately I only last until assumptio drops or I run out of sp (which is roughly the same time), when I have to warp back for inn recovery. I've had some success in taking down 4-5 at once with bowling bash, but that requires craaaazy pot spamming to live without peno.

I hit for roughly 10k per pierce.

Yup, my vids are proof of the sp ass problem i ran into. I dont have the vit for this place yet, so high orcs is better suited to me untill i get more finaces.

I have a alice on, Hit without ass = 1k with ass around 900s this is having around 36 base vit total and about 59 def with SD on

[Goblin Hero]

doddler how are you hitting for 10k a pierce??

[Dimp]

last night i got 96.5->97.75 roughly 200m in about 8 hours ... so very nice ^.~

[Doddler]

doddler how are you hitting for 10k a pierce??

Pretty easy!

http://ro.doddlercon.com/images/screenLoki537.jpg

Ok, maybe not that easy. Using some STR+7's I made to hit next str bonus. Hopefully in the next level or two I can get enough str that I can drop the ring and put in a sign. I also need the right shield. :(

[Cubical]

Thats how i got 10k pierces, bloody ball + impo + bless. I have 99+18 str

In my vids i do not have str food

[Oswald]

Thats how i got 10k pierces, bloody ball + impo + bless. I have 99+18 str

In my vids i do not have str food

That's really nice, but won't you suffer from taking a lot of damage? What kind of vit is required to lvl there?

[Cubical]

With ass i was taking around 400s, i got around 50 vit now, w/o 900s still

When i got clashing, it took 1/4th hp, without ass it takes about 1/2 to 3/4 my hp[at around 12k hp]

@Red around 50+ vit plus is my reccomendation, any lower is really risky. I wasnt taking that much damage without ass, just pot when needed and watch out for its spiral. The only thing to look out for really is the swordmaster, i just ran into it accidently and it 2 shoted me. It killed me once with spear boom.

With kasa, keep it to 2. If you are higher leveled and with more thor leveling experiance, yea you can take on more, just keep and eye on your HP bar while your fighting.

Also, i reccomend about 2-3 blue pots or sp regn item for your trips. Save at the inns, endow and buff/warp from the inn. Try to save at an inn where you can easily sprint too and from the kafra. you'll need to restock every 15-20minutes on whites and wings

[Boom]

is that a girl lk ;_;

[Doddler]

is that a girl lk ;_;

It is... theres an interesting story behind that. Well not really. A friend of mine had quit RO and I inherited his account. I decided it would be easier to level the knight he had on his acct, and went from there.

I burn whites so fast... I use anywhere from 40-80 for every trip (max 100 seconds). Part of it has to do with me not having the right shield (30% reduction would help alot!), and part of it is because I mob a lot. I'm stupid enough to try to kill 5-6 kasa at a time with bowling bash. It doesn't always work out that great though, but if it does, its definately exp+++.

[Aurora]

10k pierce with double beholder double flam?

Hm, none of that's really out of the question in terms of equips...

I kinda wanna go there now.

Just need a peno/alice thing.

[Doddler]

Double Beholder Flamable Titan is what I use myself. I used to just use a quad titan before (did about 6.5-6.8k) which actually wasn't bad, but I get about 30% more damage out of a specialized spear. The best I've seen though was from kRO, using a creative combination cards including AK, and 140 str total (using str+10).

[Cubical]

Watch out at the top most part of the map, on chaos theres an ass load of TKM's that are just KSing all over the place

If you have someone bombing or mointoring the top most part, you can make it into a pure kasa spawn point

[Dimp]

i got 98-99 trans in 1 day!!! i am tired ... gnight!
FINALLY got my lesser elemental too

[Cubical]

How was your job exp? I noticed better job than base when i went there

Im pretty tried to, 80-90 in 2 days in hi orcs ct

[Dimp]

uhhh job exp was ok ... my knight did mostly TT/Abyss/Bios up until 94 ... so i would say my job exp up until this point was average .... i ended up with 99/69.3 so i have 70% left to go

[greendayfreakrct]

I'm thinking of putting my LK in there and trying it out. He's 94 pure vit around 95 atm. 130 Str. 1 Agi. My gears would be a +10 double flam, titan hallow pike, +7 pasana silk robe or glittering. Alice Valk shield and a +7 Deviling valk mant. I know i would take 50% more damage from their fireballs, but like elm said i think the damage from physical overweights their spells. Anyone know how the 50% more dmg from DR would be using pasana and valk alice? I have no clue how the negations will work. I can't really play to test this shit out to busy with college and work. Gotta wait till a break. Side note I'm going to the dallas and bills game today. GOOOOOO COWBOYS!

[Myzery]

i got 98-99 trans in 1 day!!! i am tired ... gnight!
FINALLY got my lesser elemental too

Did you get your ring from a magmaring?
I always bwing after I fist and left a ring on the ground, I hope someone actually got it so it didn't go to waste.

[Fish]

You'd take 400s regular attacks and 1k fbs if you wore immune.

[Dimp]

Did you get your ring from a magmaring?
I always bwing after I fist and left a ring on the ground, I hope someone actually got it so it didn't go to waste.

LOL no i was an idiot and accedentally 99ed ... i forgot that Kasas gave me the 115k and not 49k ... i was tired.... gimmie a break heh

[Cubical]

As for LKs leveling in thor's, kinda obvious now, but bring a SP head gear-- missy or maestro headgear

[Aurora]

......

What.

[Dr. Azzy]

SP headgear? Huh? I dont need it. I lose sump before my SP bottoms out unless i have insane spawns.

I've seen people in there dishing out 15k+ pierces on iRO, highest damage possible in a realistic situation is around 20k pierce (that'd be a 2x AK vadon peco egg pike and two meg's, bless, AB5, SD5, Pirate Dagger, +str food, and Impos)
-Az