Fastest Build to 99 Smith?

[MistressTifa]

Assuming you've got Good Gears, God Gears, Endow and a Buffslave (at times Healslave)

I'm starting to wonder if I made a Smith from scratch, where the best place to solo would be.

I've had some people on IRC tell me that a pure Str/Vit Smith can Mammo level to 95 at HOs (OH Map) but I'm still not sure if that is the best map possible.

seems like a Quad Smashing of any type, Mace or Axe with Endow 1 shots HOs with other str related gears.

[Yugioh]

I thought mob cart revo with earth deleter

[Lane]

Assuming you've got Good Gears, God Gears, Endow and a Buffslave (at times Healslave)

I'm starting to wonder if I made a Smith from scratch, where the best place to solo would be.

I've had some people on IRC tell me that a pure Str/Vit Smith can Mammo level to 95 at HOs (OH Map) but I'm still not sure if that is the best map possible.

seems like a Quad Smashing of any type, Mace or Axe with Endow 1 shots HOs with other str related gears.

Yea its fast as shit and good exp. Ive been leveling my Alchy there 1 shotting HO's for awhile. Its fairly easy to acheive 1 shotting power. and since you're a smith it'll be ALOT easier.

[MistressTifa]

ya I found out on Calc that from around lvl65+ with proper gears, you can start 1 shot Mammoing HOs. I figured Id give the CTHOs a shot too, but seems like without agi, its not the greatest place?

[devo1]

imo dont need much vit on a PvM smith, just get agi to flee the bugs and shit in CTHO, fwing mammo w/ earth deleter, and cart revo mobs. do that till 95, then labs leech. really fast

[MistressTifa]

ya lookin at the post ss thread, I can see people Cart Revoing mobs, and Mammoing just HOs, but what exactly do people do about the Arcs and Blights on that map, wouldnt the damage be shitty if you use a HO Killing Wep?

[devo1]

ignore and fwing away

[MistressTifa]

o... so CTHO is just better for mobbin then West Gef because of how much smaller the map is?

[The Jesus]

Get a lvl 9 spear merc to brandish while you cart rev at the same time. I get 3m/hr in the 90s without scrolls or exp event using this method. That's actually a modest estimate, it was more like 3.5m/hr when the map wasn't crowded. Just hot key the mercs brandish and cast it on your own since they're retarded even with a decent AI. Between the two of you you'll always have sp for a mob. This method doesn't require an earth deleter card but I'd imagine it would be even better with one. Also it's nice when you time gap with a giant mob on you then come back and see your merc wiped it on it's own instead of you getting killed. Also the merc's brandish will kill the arclouzes and brilights for extra exp since he doesn't rely on racial cards for damage.

[MistressTifa]

o osm to hear, never took into considerations mercs. Level 9 eh? Guess that requires some time to build up to get some lol

[The Jesus]

You're gonna want to mammo lvl your smith at West Hos to get through the 60s and 70s. Bring a merc along just to build up your loyalty. Set it to passive to stay out of your way while you one shot them and build up kills. It took about a week for me to open up the lvl 9 merc.

[MistressTifa]

lol pro indeed

still not sure if I should invest in a Guillotine too hmm

[Muse]

personally, i'm doing ed armor with a +6 double smashing bloody chain

west ho's with water endow and buffslave

since i'm not rich, i'm just gonna do ho's until 99, but if you are rich, i suggest ice pick mammo id3

[The Jesus]

I knew an agi smith who did ice pick id3 with a soul linker that leveled extremely fast.

[kei]

ID gets too crowded at times, all those sins like to horde down there. dragging a priest around makes it hard to find monsters instead of teleing. CT HOs is still a better choice most the time.


I also recommend thors if you have assumpt and 6k hp and 170 hit (dex food, pasteries) and mammo kill there. i used to do it solo as a smith when i was 97 and my +10 quad flammable axe with converters. spiral does hurt, so i recommend immune VS kasas, but imps are so annoying with their knock back i go with 105% fire resist instead. my solo runs used to last 3 minutes or so before i would wing back and use inn to gain sp back, and i've never actually stayed there for more than 15 minutes cos of how much it cost me, of course i died pretty often as well since i don't have the best defensive gears for that place (and no assumpt). but 4 mill / hour i can do approximately, it'll probably be more with buffs and assumptio.

[Xxelos]

Problem with normal smiths in Thors now is shield reflect. I have a feeling it would rape you if you tried soloing in there with Mammo.

[Bronx]

The best build to 99 the fastest would have to be a vit heavy hybrid. Agi hybrids don't do that bad, but cannot tank mobs as well as the vit based counter-part. With high Str, optimal weapon, and endow, your attackspeed won't be much of a factor. Earth Deleter armor, endow in ct HOs, lots of flys and fish, and the levels will fly by. High Str, good Vit, deccent Agi, average Dex, from my experiences levels to 99 faster than any other non-leeched build.

[kei]

Problem with normal smiths in Thors now is shield reflect. I have a feeling it would rape you if you tried soloing in there with Mammo.

she has heal slave. don't think she'll care much.

[frapps]

it's a he :lO

[Chidori]

CTHO to 95. Mammonite bio3 wiz spawns to 99 if you have a GTB imo.

[MistressTifa]

GTB didn't go through Sakray Transfer

[crash]

I'd say AGI>VIT is better for faster leveling. You'll still want 40~60 VIT, though for when you do run into big mobs and for pot efficiency.

[Bun]

I thought mob cart revo with earth deleter

earth deleter is unneeded and is shit for blacksmith..

earth deleter + armour = over 20m

WHEREAS

BUY A GUILLOTINE (at the cost of NOT wearing a sheild)

guillotine now costs 5m ish? dunno what server your in..

i own both.. but earth deleter is good when you can mob kill in one go.. (eg. knights mobbing) but guillotine each cart rev you get 2sp back per monster hit.. so in a mob you can get like the amount of sp you lose by revving.. then once the mob is dead.. you get like 10 sp per kill..

[Sora`]

earth deleter is unneeded and is shit for blacksmith..

You obviously don't know much about blacksmiths then...... If a guillotine is the "fastest way to 99" wouldnt yours be 99 already?

Guillotines are great if you have a slave, meaning you can spam cart revo and not worry about your sp, but shield + endless sp (if you're not retarded) > full sp with no shield anyday

[Bronx]

You obviously don't know much about blacksmiths then...... If a guillotine is the "fastest way to 99" wouldnt yours be 99 already?

I think he's 8x. Guillotine is alright, but ED is much better for a smith. If guillotine is as good as he says it is, I'd probably have used it to 99 my second smith instead of ED.

[Kumoko]

I knew an agi smith who did ice pick id3 with a soul linker that leveled extremely fast.

Hey that sounds like me LOL

So of course I'm going to say... Agi smith with ice pick and linker in ID3 is the fastest. I also know two other smiths who did it this way. They had all sorts of SP and buff and link slaves and they skyrocketed to 99. You also need the spare zeny for mammo if you want to do it hella fast, though. I think I hit up to like 7m/hr that way with manuals and 1.5x exp event.

EDIT: Oh yeah, with a dedicated mobber and FS, I got around 6m/hr in Pasanas..... With an endowed guillotine. 8D Oh, and str foods.

[Asdfg]

Glad to see people still leveling in High Orcs.

[Chidori]

Nothing beats it, that's why. ;p

And nothing beats an Earth Deleter armor. Guillotine sucks for many reasons (2h, coma=noexp, etc.), it's not worth using.

[The Jesus]

Glad to see people still leveling in High Orcs.

duh :P

[Atum]

And nothing beats an Earth Deleter armor. Guillotine sucks for many reasons (2h, coma=noexp, etc.), it's not worth using.
Coma was fixed some weeks ago, you get normal XP if you kill a comaed monster as far as i know.

[Tzayad]

I leveled my smith in CT HOs

Mammo one shotting, flywinging around. made 8mil+ an hour during the 2x exp with battle manuals.

However I'm stuck at level 98 now /sob

[Asdfg]

duh :P

Hardly anyone did, back in the day! Well depends how far you go back. Pre bugs it was packed out. After map changes, I was one of only a handful of Blacksmiths. I was alone there for the majority of trans. Only when I managed to get .|2aven. to join me on the odd occasion was there another MS. . .

[Kumoko]

Man, I don't get how people can get all that insane solo exp. I probably just don't have the mindset (or wallet) for it. I love to ctrl + click stuff, I really do. Hence why I went agi.

Now I kind of want to try out those medallions with my MS's decent agi and see if I can hit 183 aspd with an axe again. Q_Q

[The Jesus]

Kumo did you play when the Kafra Peco hat was bugged to add aspd instead of subtract it? You would have loved that.

[junta-kun]

Kumooooooooooooo~~ lvl ur MS more plz!

I leveled during the exp event(s) with mammo flywinging at ctho. 8m/h during dbl exp with manuals. God items dont really help much here, they would just lower the cost of mammo.

If you really have godly gears, you can prolly do that till 95 and try mammoing hwizzies with immaterial sword. I still want a wind armor to try that on my MS :s

[Sora`]

If you're gonna put megs on a regular smith, you're best off going to ice dungeon or bio3 to mammo

[Danny]

Hardly anyone did, back in the day! Well depends how far you go back. Pre bugs it was packed out. After map changes, I was one of only a handful of Blacksmiths. I was alone there for the majority of trans. Only when I managed to get .|2aven. to join me on the odd occasion was there another MS. . .

Much like on oRO too. No one ever went there - which was good in a way, as I had it to myself for most of the time on my BS/Knight.

[Oh Snap]

Guillo > ED Armor in my experience 99ing a smith in CT ho's. Guillo (with Ice Endow) is really endless sp which for my playing style (mobbing) ED Armor just fell short. As for no shield, it's CT Ho's for chirst sake, if you died you probably deserved it. I was pulling 2m+ every 30min.

[Bronx]

ED also gives you endless sp, unless you suck. You get to keep your shield, and you also get to kill in less hits. Killing in fewer hits results in faster Exp/Hr. It seems alot of people are complaining about ED, saying that Guillotine gives more sp. Learn to use the ED properly, and you will have full/close to full SP all the time. A mob of HOs dies in 2 Revos by a Mastersmith, 3 Revos by a Blacksmith. All you have to do is figure out the least amount of monsters it takes to regain your sp back from killing them, and go from there. Its just simple mathmatics...There is nothing about the Guillotine that makes it better except that its cheaper to obtain.

[Oh Snap]

I like all these homo smiths who are scared to lvl in ct ho's without a shield. guillo gives more sp than an ED by far without having to do little gay calculations.

ED is good but for how i played it was nowhere near as good as a guillo.

[The Jesus]

With 20% more from Am Mut boots plus no beret on I wouldn't even try to make real mobs in CTHOs with no shield unless I had an assumptio slave.

[derpderp]

I like all these homo smiths who are scared to lvl in ct ho's without a shield. guillo gives more sp than an ED by far without having to do little gay calculations.

ED is good but for how i played it was nowhere near as good as a guillo.

i'm not really seeing how guillotine is so "superior" to an ed armor even when mobbing
sure you'll regain your sp back WHILE you're cart revoing... but what's the difference? you'll still regain it all back the second you kill that mob with ED

and i doubt anyone's cart rev is so shitty that they take so many revs to kill a mob that ed won't fill it back up...

i've used both in levelling my MS... ed is definately better in my experience

[Sora`]

Unless you're such a "homo smith" that cant mob at least 3 HOs (hell even 2 with ideal gears) then I don't see how a guillotine is any better

Or it could be that you're such a "homo smith" that you are too fuckin cheap to spend 900z (actually less because you don't need to use mammo10) to kill a single HO because there are no mobs and choose to cart revo a single monster 3 times just to kill it.

The only way a guillotine keeps your sp up any better is if you waste your time killing the bugs. Which, if you are, you shouldn't be in here talking about the "fastest way to 99"

[Kumoko]

I'm so homo I can't even kill HOs with HSCR. ]:

[derpderp]

I'm so homo I can't even kill HOs with HSCR. ]:

+0 knife [3] unendowed :[

[Bronx]

Ok lets me put it like this:

That guy: "I think guillotine is the best! It refills my sp all the time, its like totally wicked dude."

Bronx: "I have Earth Deleter. I hit harder than you, and I don't take uneccessary damage because I have a shield. My sp is full all the time too."

That guy: "RAWR! You must be a HOMO then! Guillotine ftw!"

Bronx: "Learn to play..."

[Saxy Lady]

Ok lets me put it like this:

That guy: "I think guillotine is the best! It refills my sp all the time, its like totally wicked dude."

Bronx: "I have Earth Deleter. I hit harder than you, and I don't take uneccessary damage because I have a shield. My sp is full all the time too."

That guy: "RAWR! You must be a HOMO then! Guillotine ftw!"

Bronx: "Learn to play..."
This is dangerously close to becoming my new signature.

[Dannykat]

Is there a fast way to 99 a smith that isnt too costly?

[mocharust]

Is there a fast way to 99 a smith that isnt too costly?

^ Needs help with this.

[Kumoko]

Leech it with your HP and SinX in bio3.

[kei]

Is there a fast way to 99 a smith that isnt too costly?

the title of this thread and the quoted sentence don't mix together. the faster the exp, the more money spent. its the smith way.

[Kumoko]

And if you don't have the mindset to level that way, why are you here anyway?

[asano]

About mammo leveling in CTHO's, i think an ED armor is quite useless.
I'm leveling there and i got no sp issues. I guess a sky deleter card (gain 100hp every kills) should fit better

[Feint]

About mammo leveling in CTHO's, i think an ED armor is quite useless.
I'm leveling there and i got no sp issues. I guess a sky deleter card (gain 100hp every kills) should fit better

ED armor allows you to level at 89% weight, thus making your leveling runs a damn lot longer. It's clearly better than saving a few Fresh Fish.

[asano]

ED armor allows you to level at 89% weight

WHAT.

:omg:

[Nibbles]

WHAT.

:omg:

You overload yourself on your HP restorative of choice to the point that you're at 89% of your weight limit (90% prevents you from attacking). Since your E.D. has ALREADY negated your SP recovery, there is no difference between being at 49% vs. 89% weight; so long as you always kill what you want to kill in less SP than you recover by killing it.

[The Jesus]

Damn I never thought of that.

[Sora`]

/facepalm

[Shindiggidy]

^ This.

[The Jesus]

Hope those aren't directed at my comment, I've never owned this card to even ponder such a strategy.

[Kumoko]

Alpha, I love you, lol...

When I was using my guillotine in Pasanas, I'd load my cart up to full on loot and load myself up to 89%. I have more stilettos and undershirts than I can keep track of... >_>

Of course, I would prefer if I could get an earth deleter card, but since I already have the guillotine...

[The Jesus]

luvu2

[Tea`]

i personally would use a guillotine to level and endow it =].. screw the soul collectors.. blacksmiths have the shitmost buffs you can get.. crazy uproar, power maximise and all that shit.. with soul collectors mink its hard to save up sp.. because it stops natural sp from regening.. whereas with a guillotine.. every cart rev/ normal hit you do.. you get 2sp back per monster.. and 10 sp back per kill am i right or was it 20sp per kill..? my blacksmith at level 80 level'd there up till 89 (2x exp and bm + superior's to assassinator's shoes switch at level 85 when i thought i could handle the mobs decently..) at 89 i found it annoying to keep up the constant cart rev's and etc.. so i just f-wing'd around to mammo HO's at CT.. came out with fairly decent sp.. but i kinda thought i gathered up more when cartrevv'ing.. i also seen blacksmiths + buff slave up in ID3 mammo'ing the fck out of titans..

[Bronx]

You don't need SP recovery when using an Earth Deleter because it gives you infinite SP. The only way you will not gain back the SP for skills/buffs is if you fail to kill in the least amount of hits possible. Whether it be low Str, or you waste your time revoing bugs. Earth Deleter is better than Guillotine in every shape way or form, and will only lose out exp/hr. wise to the Guillotine if the weilder is a complete moron. It seems the vast majority of the people making a case for the Guillotine are people who don't even play smiths as thier main, or just flat out scrubby smiths.

[oreo!]

No, your wrong. A smith using a guilotine will take usually 1 more cart revo to kill a mob of HOs. The effect this will have upon your speed of leveling will be minimal, especially when compared to other, far more important variables such as the ability to gather sizeable mobs. A guilotine costs at least half the price of an earth deleter armour. Though when using the guilotine more fresh fish/healing items will be used up, the comparative price of the two equipments renders this expense irrelevent.
For a smith leveling via cart revo in HOs, a guillotine is far superior due to its price. When mammo leveling there I can imagine an ED armour to be usefull though in no way essential. I myself managed to mammo at HOs without it. There is no reason to purchase an ED armour for only a blacksmith. Furthermore to label those that think a guilotine is useful as 'scrubby smiths' makes evident your inability to think upon a respectable level.

[John]

Earth Deleter > Guillotine. Fin.

[Bronx]

I never said Guillotine was for scrubby smiths. Learn to read. I was stating that in terms of Fastest Build to 99 Smith, like the title of the thread says, Earth Deleter is the superior method of mobbing HOs over Guillotine. Anyone who wants to argue otherwise, needs to learn to play thier character, hence the term 'scrubby smith'.

[oreo!]

The disscusion as to whether either a guilotine or an earth deleter is superior has clearly nothing to do with the original question of this thread. If you consider mobbing HOs or even mammoing them to be the quickest method of attaining a 99 blacksmith then you are more retarded than I gave you credit for. Unless the blacksmith also has a knight or intends to level multiple blacksmiths to a high level (which is unlikely) my post remains wholly acurate. You seem to be unable to make any points which I have not made previously for the use of an earth deleter.

If you believe that, for a smith, HOs will yield the highest exp and the fastest route to mastersmith, irrespective of the costs, then it is you who needs to learn to play their character.

[Bronx]

Dude are you serious? HOs might not be the fastest way to 99 a smith, but it is one of the most common ways smiths have been using to 99 for a long time. There is good reason for this. :(

Earth Deleter armor is better than Guillotine for leveling in this fashion. I have tried both, and after taking 2 smiths to 99, I believe ED is superior to Guillotine in terms of damage per second, damage reduction, and over all exp/hr. Guillotine is 6m on chaos for a reason. Nobody wants it.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have an MvP to catch.

[oreo!]

You are missing the point of my posts. The reasons I made when stating that the guillotine is better still remain valid. Both a guillotine and an earth deleter armour effectively give the smith an infinite amount of sp. The additional damage obtained by using a HO axe, which the earth deleter armour allows for, will for most blacksmiths increase the damage to such an extent that the HO will die in an one additional cart revo. This will increase the exp/hr slightly,not by any considerable sum. While the guillotine stops the use of a buckler this is not an issue in HOs. If fish are used to keep up your hp you will not die there unless you are a low level or have no vit and stun.

The advantages of an earth deleter armour however are not worth this additional 10-15mil cost. I am not saying a guillotine is better if both items are already obtained. It clearly isn't. But a guillotine works as effectively, for a smaller cost, thus making it, all things considered, the better of the two.

And yes I am serious there are faster places to level than HOs. Reread my posts and you will realise that whether its is a common place to level or not is of no importance.

[MagiGetal]

I always used niff 2 to get to 99 fast but other then that I stick to magma dungeon.

You don't have to be dodge master to do those places but you going to need a healer to back you up.

[Nibbles]

You are missing the point of my posts.

Perhaps it would help if your posts had points that were not already invalidated. The ONLY thing you have in favor of Guillotine is "it's cheaper".

As to whether one hunts faster than the other; being limited to one weapon of a very limited nature seems like it would be slower to me.

[Bronx]

I already stated that HOs, while not the fastest, is still a consistant way to get really good exp for a smith. There is no arguement there. If you want to keep arguing that Guillotine is better, go right on ahead, and do it...with a wall. :)

I don't even level my smith anymore, but if I did, it would probably be at Thors, or ct HOs with ED. Guillotine is cheaper, but I perfer using a shield, and killing faster. If cost was a concern, I would seriously consider playing something other than a smith.

[Sora`]

Don't even pay attention to Tea, its just another idiot that already posted that made a new forum acct thinkin sayin it again is gonna make it any different.

I miss the days of when the smith forum was filled with people who actually knew how to play the class. Was nice joining a forum that wasnt filled with complete idiots like the archer forum was. Now both of these are filled with only a select few who really know about the class

[oreo!]

The arguement I made supporting the guillotine was completely reasonable. While for me to make the blanket statement that a guillotine is ultimately better may I have been not completely correct, one cannot deny that it has a distinct advantage over the earth deleter card. Its price.

I myself admitted that to use an earth deleter armour would generally be better for leveling, especially at HOs. Leveling would be less dangerous and to an extent faster. However it is also the case that a guillotine works well enough that, to those who lack the resources to purchase quite an expensive card, it remains a very usefull piece of equipment which allows for a very similar leveling method at a reduced price.

I do not see how defining what is, at least in my eyes, a perfectly valid arguement against the use of an ED armour makes me an 'idiot'. That is if the post above was aimed at me.

[kei]

Don't even pay attention to Tea, its just another idiot that already posted that made a new forum acct thinkin sayin it again is gonna make it any different.

I miss the days of when the smith forum was filled with people who actually knew how to play the class. Was nice joining a forum that wasnt filled with complete idiots like the archer forum was. Now both of these are filled with only a select few who really know about the class

back in the days, i used to tell people to visit the smith forums for true knowledge, but then don't bother with the rest of the other classes cos everyones thoughts are skewed towards "zomg, fail if not 99 dex and 99 int !!" or something similar.


smith builds are very versitile and we would have alot of understand in different builds. as me being vit / luk back in the days, the new people tried to bash me about it, but it appears they can't argue with my logic and expertises *insert more self ego inflating words here* and eventually gave in. the vetereans would always refer luk build questions to a few selected smiths and we'd get so much more knowledge from everyone else posting their non-cookie cutters.


nowadays, sora and nibbles have invaded us. so lesser knowledge to the smith community :D

[Oscarsito]

so in short whats the fastest way ? and MagiGetal, you revo niff2 or luk build ? and mammo magma/

[kei]

magi has 110 str, and 97 agi. i believe his mastersmith also has 30 luk.

[Sora`]

Fastest way would be ice dungeon3 mammo leveling with an ice pick with a link slave (dunno how much slower it would be w/o link, only lvled a mastersmith there with cart ram). But you're going to burn a lot of fly wings and sp items to be able to keep going nonstop. If the place is really crowded then your rate is gonna slow down greatly.

CTHOs is pretty constant, easy, and easily doable at lower levels. And probably the next fastest place to even touch on a smith.

[DartxIcexDragon]

think outside of the box (or in this case CTHOs). Fastest place for any smith is venatus with the proper gears. If Sho has access to god items and an ED, you can make 6M/hour 2-3 shotting them. You need a buff slave with assu at the entrance and a handful of SP items, and a hell of alot of whites.

You'd probably want an agi > vit hybrid build.

[Bronx]

I can see it now, mobs of smiths with buff slaves at juperos.

[MagiGetal]

so in short whats the fastest way ? and MagiGetal, you revo niff2 or luk build ? and mammo magma/

You can kart revo alot of things in niff 2 and then the rest you crit them to death. (banana hat works great in niff2/magma dungeon 1)




Btw this pure forger smith normally leech to 99 but instead she got a healer and 99 off of niff2. ( iRO chaos )

I can see it now, mobs of smiths with buff slaves at juperos.
Try that but it did not work well even with ass.

[DartxIcexDragon]

I soloed it just fine, 98 -> 99 in about 10 hours. no exp books.

[v1souP0w3r^ultraX]

Thors probably the fastest now.
Im getting about 30m / hour on my smith with this exp event, endow + buffslave, mammo everything and wing to inn when ass runs out.
1000-1500 whites per hour tho e.e

[Tigre]

Thors probably the fastest now.
Im getting about 30m / hour on my smith with this exp event, endow + buffslave, mammo everything and wing to inn when ass runs out.
1000-1500 whites per hour tho e.e

What level and what equips are you using?

[v1souP0w3r^ultraX]

What level and what equips are you using?
I'm 98 atm but you could probably do it once you get enough hit and HP to survive CS, i just tele around until i find 1-2 kasas and then mammo them.

immune, sup shoes, alice guard, fire armour, majestic goat, welding mask, trip behold chain, 2x safety rings

base def : 72
vit : 70

7k dmg per mammo with str food.

[Bronx]

30m/ hr. seems like a bit of an exaguration for a normal smith. My Mastersmith at 98 wasn't getting 30m/hr. during a x2 event with manuals. Take into consideration, MS hit harder and have more hp/sp than a normal smith.

[v1souP0w3r^ultraX]

30m/ hr. seems like a bit of an exaguration for a normal smith. My Mastersmith at 98 wasn't getting 30m/hr. during a x2 event with manuals. Take into consideration, MS hit harder and have more hp/sp than a normal smith.
Im alone/almost alone in thors most of the time tho since european timezone, that makes a big diffrence i think

[Bronx]

When I leveled there, it was pretty empty. This was after the SR, and it wasn't packed with TKMs. Crowded or not, I cannot fathem your 13 hits to kill a kasa yeilding more exp than my 7-8 hits. Mind me asking which server you play on? If you are speaking the truth, then you have possibly the fastest leveling non-trans smith ever.

[v1souP0w3r^ultraX]

When I leveled there, it was pretty empty. This was after the SR, and it wasn't packed with TKMs. Crowded or not, I cannot fathem your 13 hits to kill a kasa yeilding more exp than my 7-8 hits.
well ive used 3 BMs since 98 and im at 40.7%, might have gotten 1 or 2 % before starting a new BM but its atleast 25/hour, and could probably be faster with a better build and faster buff/warping

[Oh Snap]

30m/ hr. seems like a bit of an exaguration for a normal smith. My Mastersmith at 98 wasn't getting 30m/hr. during a x2 event with manuals. Take into consideration, MS hit harder and have more hp/sp than a normal smith.

my MS is getting about 18m exp in 30min while this whole exp event shit is going on with manuals. my max was 22m exp in 30min but thats when it was empty.

[v1souP0w3r^ultraX]

my MS is getting about 18m exp in 30min while this whole exp event shit is going on with manuals. my max was 22m exp in 30min but thats when it was empty.
so if a MS can get 44m/hour max it shouldnt be too hard for a BS to get 25-30m/hour max.

[Priesty~]

In thor's no way a smith can pull that much exp per hour.

[DartxIcexDragon]

I don't know about Blacksmiths but I 99ed my MS in thors making about 45M exp/hour with a manual with no exp event. But this is also with x2 megs and a mjol so kasas die in 5 HSCRs @ 186 aspd.

[Priesty~]

I was making close to 40mil/hr depending on the fags making it harder for me its was only with one meg and mjo.

[Oscarsito]

how about exp rates for people without god items

[Oh Snap]

no god items 36-44m/hr ;D never tried it on a BS tho.

[crash]

Snap, do you use the Hurricane Fury in Thors? You posted a screen in the post your smith thread recently that looked like you were geared for Thors but with the hurfur on. I'd be curious to know how much damage you're taking from CS without a shield on.

[Oh Snap]

i take about 1000 per hit of cs. also using variant shoes so def isnt great (if def even helps vs cs). all in all i spend alittle more pots per hour then with a reg weapon and a peno shield but the fact that is i just kill so much faster with the fury.

[Vertol]

i take about 1000 per hit of cs. also using variant shoes so def isnt great (if def even helps vs cs). all in all i spend alittle more pots per hour then with a reg weapon and a peno shield but the fact that is i just kill so much faster with the fury.

CS 100% ignores def

[Priesty~]

I was taking like 800-850 pre CS so doesn't matter the extra 150 damage.

[cronnik]

I'd like to know how i can get to start one shotting HOs with mammo. Here's my build (I know it's terrible. This was my first character. I'm trying to get my str up there now. I'm lvl 78.)

STR - 67+15
AGI - 23+4
VIT - 77+5
INT - 1+2
DEX - 25+12
LUK - 2+4

I was thinking of using a Guillotine since it's cheaper and I can't afford a ED card. I was working with the calculator and I couldn't get to the point where I was one shotting HOs. With an endow what are the stats/gear that I'm looking for?
Thanks

[Beanie]

You need a specialized axe/mace to one shot them... I can't remember the exact numbers but I think 120 str, 2x orc lady 1x flammable 1x bloody mace, alice doll should do it.

[cronnik]

Alice doll with a deviruchi card Im guessing?

[wongbr]

Whatever you can put in it

I personally used a Cramp card to give me +3 str with a tarou ring/clip
If you can't hit a bonus willow card helps for other classes

[Asdfg]

18-30mill per HOUR? No wonder everyone is 99 now.

[MagiGetal]

18-30mill per HOUR? No wonder everyone is 99 now.

I just want the job exp and not everyone can do thors.

Btw sakray player got to choice what sever to move to because sakray is no more.

[Pete]

sakray players moved to iris, they had to pay for the trasfers to anywhere else like everyone

[Asdfg]

I just want the job exp and not everyone can do thors.

Btw sakray player got to choice what sever to move to because sakray is no more.

Yes, I read that. Sad that the Master Smith class will be next to unrecognizable now, with all the new Smith's transferring in. But that's the way the game was moving, anyway. Must make siege a little more interesting, as well.


:gawi:

[Bronx]

There's not as many active smiths in WoE, you tend to see the same ones over and over. Quite a few MS have changed thier mains to LK/Champ/Sinx/HP.

[junta-kun]

I love playing smith in WoE.... :( sad to see that smiths have moved on to other classes. Eventhough its not the strongest class or anything, its great.

Now just to wait till next exp event to 99 my smith ^^

btw anyone tried leveling on the bio highwiz with just typhoon unfrozen? comparable with thors?

[Fearless]

I've been playing my smith every WoE for more than 3 years and I still enjoy it every time :D

[Asdfg]

I've been playing my smith every WoE for more than 3 years and I still enjoy it every time :D

:lv:

[MagiGetal]

Yes, I read that. Sad that the Master Smith class will be next to unrecognizable now, with all the new Smith's transferring in. But that's the way the game was moving, anyway. Must make siege a little more interesting, as well.


:gawi:

I took a break from WoE intill I get even better gears then before....

Anyway I refuse to the smith race die and plus we still a bad ass class.

If smiths had the godly gear they way more powerful then a sin x and biochemist put together.

As we all know not all smiths have those gears like god like gears with the mvp cards.

[Solarcow105]

I love playing smith in WoE.... :( sad to see that smiths have moved on to other classes. Eventhough its not the strongest class or anything, its great.

Now just to wait till next exp event to 99 my smith ^^

btw anyone tried leveling on the bio highwiz with just typhoon unfrozen? comparable with thors?

Smith in bios is fun. The problem I found is it's hard to get a good wiz spawn.

I slaved a friend's MS in bios and we killed everything except LKs and 99s (we were trying to find a wiz spawn). She seemed to gain a good amount, but I personally think that thors is much easier to get set up and much safer exp.

[crash]

I'd imagine if you had access to some other characters like Link Tarot to clean out all of the snipers and etc. That or get a small party and AB everything that isn't the wizard just so you don't get fucked by the sniper spawn or wandering LKs.

[Solarcow105]

I'd imagine if you had access to some other characters like Link Tarot to clean out all of the snipers and etc. That or get a small party and AB everything that isn't the wizard just so you don't get fucked by the sniper spawn or wandering LKs.

I brought a 99 bard and a scholar for winging unnecessary things. With 2 parties down there (on iChaos), the spawn rate was still pretty bad as well as the fact that one of the parties left snipers near us. We had more trouble with random Sin X's spawning on us while tanking other things.

The fact that if there is a party wipe, it's much easier to get re set up in thors than in bios and there's no need for extra charas to wing stuff, makes thors more appealing to me. I assume with an instant wiz and a nice cleaned area, that bios greatly outshines thors. Just curious, does anyone know if you can kill bow guardians and salas with a MS, assuming they're being tanked? I haven't had a chance to try.

[Oh Snap]

ive taken out bow guardians solo so yes on them. salas are a different story tho.

[Wodus]

if they are tanked its no problem to even kill them with a normal smith.
just ask the priest to set a sw in front of it so you dont get pushed around by its skills.

as for taking on 2 guardians solo, that should have been highly pot intensive cause of the various pushback skills since you need to get pretty close for mammo / CT.