Help making a pally!!!

[Ares]

hey guys please help i've been working on making a pally for a long time now... so far i deleted 3 characters cause i've been readin faqs on pallys and their builds and everytime things i see or learn new stuff i change my mind :wah:............the thing is i want to make the best pally build .... but the skills and stats r a bit wild for me to handle...if anyone who knows alot about pallys and their skill please help me out :( ......

ok here's the skills i want and dont know about......Grand cross , Martyr's reckoning , Shield chain , Gloria Domini and scrafice[well this i jus wanted to know if its a good skill] ps...i dont want heal i was thinking of Reflect Shield and Defending Aura and Gaurd

here's the stats i want and/or was thinking about....
STR - around 30 to 50
VIT - 80 to 99
AGI - 1
INT - 99+
DEX - above 70
LUK - 1

Oh yea and if u know wat wud be awesome equips for my pally that wud be gr8...THANKS in advance

[MistressTifa]

um sorry to burst your bubbles but theres absolutely no point getting Rapid Smite with that kind of STR. just get Reflect Shield instead and thats 69 Job Skill Points.

somethin like this I suppose

http://web.hc.keio.ac.jp/~fk061999/himeyasha/skill3/pld.html?20IKfXcFkFwfbnas1eFak

[Ares]

wow thanks alot man so thats one skill out of the question....but i heard that for a good MR we need agi 70+.......oh yea and wat about battle chant .. are the buff at random or all at once ??? .....

and is it alright if i post here about my enquires cause im new i really dont know ......

[MistressTifa]

I think you're thinking too much, you can't GET ALL of the skills, you really gotta decide if you want to be

GC/BC
GC/Sac
RS/MR
GC/MR
and w/e others I don't need to think of.

you can't get All the stats you want, if you're going Int, then you go down the Int path, GC, and from there think if you want your secondary to be Vit for Sac/MR or Dex for Gloria Domini and Insta Sac. Honestly that skill build I gave you, I don't even need to give you Peco Mastery 5 if it didn't have MR. But since you said you want MR I really had no choice but to put that in, you really need Agi for the MR so I hope if you can clearify how uwant to go, you'd be able to say you want to go Int/Vit/Agi with crap Dex or Int/Dex with crap Vit not going MR etc etc

[crash]

GC/RS is a viable build that you didn't include. Using high STR and moderate INT instead of the other way around, you can still afford to have ~80ish DEX and 60~70 VIT.

Leveling with GC isn't out of the question either because with Shield Reflect up and a Moonlight Dagger on, SP isn't typically a problem.

But I have to agree with Tifa, you're looking to accomplish too much with one build - so many things pulling you in so many different directions will make you mediocre if not bad at everything rather than really good at 1 or 2 things.

[Ares]

hmm.....ok so MR and SC r out of the question ... butwat if i took GC and Gloria Domini and sacfrice 1 ... here's wat i mean ......

Increase HP recovery 10
Sword Mastery 10
Bash 10
Magnum Break 1
Provoke 10
Endure 8
Peco Peco Ride 1
Cavalier Mastery 5
Faith 10
Holy Cross 6
Grand Cross 10
Sacrifice 1
Guard 10
Smite 3
Shield Boomerang 3
Shield Reflect 10
Defending Aura 5
Gloria Domini 5

does Reflect Shield and Gaurd help minimize the damage taken from GC ??
and is Defending Aura of any good in minimizing damage taken from wizzes and hunters ??{i know movement is reduced but is it worth it?}

and lets say for this build my stats wub be
STR - 1
AGI - 1
VIT - 90
INT - 90
DEX - 60
LUK - 1
not including the extra points,buffs,equips,cards....

can u please tell me if the build is good and wud do MAX damage in WOE,PVP,PVM !?

[MistressTifa]

no Reflect Shield and Guard doesnt minimize GC Damage from Knockback or the 20%
that Build looks like GC/GD, so you don't need Peco Mastery 5. Infact Id put skills to get Sac 5 instead and get rid of that.

You'd want 99 Int and higher Dex. You don't need 90 VIT since you don't have MR in that Build. Just do a balance of Dex and Vit in which u want more, but Id push for Dex, and try and get a build that can get close to insta if not, a build for insta using a Myjonir if you can get your hands on one.

[Ares]

well that wud only come in my dreams cause in inRO the making of the godly items hasn't yet brgun i mean the quest to unlock it over but other than that nothing else........

ok so i make 99 int and higher dex say around 80 and vit 50ish wud that do?? cause if im getting sacrifice don't i need high hp??

[Expt626]

what are you looking for? A pvp pally or a pvm pally?
Pure MR, Pure support pally are great for pvp but sux to pvm(can only lvl as mobber)
GC, Rs ones are fun to pvm with but might not be as effective in pvp scenerio

I presume inRO is Indonesia Ro? I think you need a great pvp pally not a fun pvm pally right? If you want a great pvp pally, I suggest vit/dex/agi Sac/GD/MR pally. If you want fun pvm( can go anywhere you like) I suggest my build str/int/dex=vit RS/GC or RS/heal shield pally.

[Silbear]

i think he wants a gc sader, since all the builds, even after his revisions, involve 99 int. imo 50 vit is definately not enough to live long enough if youre going to be saccing somebody.

like sho said above, reflect/guard dont change anything with GC, so you should repost your skill and stat build so we know more about what you have changed.

if you want to be supportive you can get gospel/battle chant and sacrifice [not the offensive one]. if you are going to get matyrs reckoning [the offensive "sacrifice"] then youre going to need more vit.

i think your main problem is you want too many skills, which will mess up your stats or make the skills rather lacking in power [low vit = bad sacrifice/MR, low str = bad shield chain/RS, etc etc]. so try to decide on 2 or 3 main things you want to do, then post your new build here so other people can give good input... cuz im still a sader n_u

[Tiltowait]

Leave str around 20 for weight capacity, then get your 9x int since you clearly want to have GC. That leaves you deciding how much vit you want to improve your surviveability with sac and how much dex you want for casting sac (or gloria domini, or grand cross).

[Cubical]

It depends on what build your going for, theres 3 main popular types:

RS type, with MR
MR
GC

RS needs STR, in order to make the skill work well

MR requires VIT and a good amount of AGI, you need dps to hit quickly so players cant react

GC is mainly for leveling and sometimes for pvp use. BC works well with the GC type as ive heard the amount of INT the pally has and lvl BC will depend on how frequent the buffs appear

Since you've remade so much, start with a GC sader, get 50 dex, 99int and rest into vit. 99 it then seriously deicide on a build.

For leveling a RS type, i guess you can level using the skill, i havent had experiance doing it but its doable for soloing for awhile, you'll still need to party up when the exp gets slow

For leveling a MR type, ive had alot of experiance with this, i own a MR/GD/SAC pally and its VERY HARD to level. I had to leech the whole way to 90 then go to bio and GD to 99/70 it. Get some friends to help you with this, or find some people that need a mobber constantly. Thats how i was able to level mine.
I find this build really rewarding, because not only is my sac very fast casting [76 base dex] but when i MVP, sac blocks EQ damage and directs it to my hp, not killing the people im sacing. I have lv 1 BC to get rid of strip, and bleeding. Lv 9 guard is awesome for straight out tanking.

For the GC type, its easy out of the gate. GC GC GC GC, get BC and heal. Those skills alone take up alot of job points.

[Tam]

Here are all the minimum stats needed for each skill.
This is the total amount you should have MINIMUM. Of course, there are exceptions because each certain skills have a secondary stat they could rely back on.

Rapid Smite - 80 str w/ SIGN, 40 dex
Gloria Domini - 60 dex
Grand Cross - 100 or 105 int w/ or w/o SIGN, 50 dex
Martyr's Reckoning - 60 VIT, 45 AGI
Sacrifice - 30-50 vit, 50 dex, 20 str

Yes the problem with getting everything, as stated previously before, you'll end up with a lack of everything.

You can change this problem by focusing on a specific field, such as:
GC/MR, GC/RS, MR/RS, Sacrifice/GD, etc.

For those who are saying 50 vit is NOT ENOUGH, this is NOT TRUE.
50 VIT IS MORE THAN ENOUGH TO LEVEL W/ GC.

Start with a GC crusader :)

[CPay]

If you make a GC Pally you're best option is prolly...
- A high INT and high DEX build with about 60~70 total VIT at j70 with Heal 10/GC 10/GD 5/SR1 (for Moonie Dagger)/BC 1 for getting ride of Divestments/Peco Riding

For 1->99 a crusader a GC sadar is the fastest way, and with more dungeons coming with undead monsters you can prolly level up even faster.

If anything you'll prolly find out more about paladins if you go into PvP / WoE and just watch peoples builds.

Just remember that almost every Paladin on iRO loves MR cause the shit is beastly so they usually have atleast total 100 vit.

It might be easier for people to help you out if you specified what exactly you wanted to use your paladin for: PvP - WoE - MvP - PvM - anything else I didnt mention.

[Ares]

i think he wants a gc sader, since all the builds, even after his revisions, involve 99 int. imo 50 vit is definately not enough to live long enough if youre going to be saccing somebody.

like sho said above, reflect/guard dont change anything with GC, so you should repost your skill and stat build so we know more about what you have changed.

if you want to be supportive you can get gospel/battle chant and sacrifice [not the offensive one]. if you are going to get matyrs reckoning [the offensive "sacrifice"] then youre going to need more vit.

i think your main problem is you want too many skills, which will mess up your stats or make the skills rather lacking in power [low vit = bad sacrifice/MR, low str = bad shield chain/RS, etc etc]. so try to decide on 2 or 3 main things you want to do, then post your new build here so other people can give good input... cuz im still a sader n_u

hmmm well i was looking for pally i can use solo in other words stand alone hero and also good in woe
and inRO is indian ragnarok......thanks for the advice will keep it in mind

WOW thanks alot guys this is really helping me alot.......ok here's the skills i DONT want and the skills which i can do without.......HEAL , DEFENDING AURA and CALVARY MASTER.

these r wat i want GC , peco ride

these r wat messes me up ..... GLORIA DOMINI , MR , RS
see wat i want to know is......

1] Gloria Domini - does it only do 2k dmg or does the dmg increase??? is it worth taking?? cause it never misses and def is ignored.

2] MR - its takes 9% of max HP so say my HP is 10k after one blow it becomes 900K so the next blow will be 9% of 900k or otherwise??? and it can [I]miss !?

3] RS - it does wat dmg exactly?? and this too can miss !?

oh yea and shield reflect and guard which one is better?? or shout i take both?:confused:

[MistressTifa]

If you don't want Heal, u won't be GC/Heal
if u dont want DA, eh thats just personal preference
if u don't want Cav Mastery, u are Non Agi, which means don't think of MR

1] GD always will do 2k dmg, even if you lex, it still will do 2k, but itll never miss unless they hide from it in time

2] MR takes 9% of ur Max HP, if u had 10k ud lose 900 hp after one blow, it'll keep taking 9% of your Max HP I Think, and it never misses, it doesn't ignore Def I think..

3] Rapid Smite can miss, it does damage based on your Str and Shield Upgrade + Weight. You'd do a nice nice damage with a good 110 Str Build+ and a +10 Stone Buckler with a 2x2 Main Gauche etc.

I take Guard 10 over SR, theres alot of things that can do SR now so, Valk Mant etc.
But its good to have a decent amount, but the pre req to Sac is enough imo

[Banisher]

MR ignores both def and flee, but it doesn't ignore Perfect Dodge. It takes 9% of the MaxHP, not of the CurrentHP, so it will kill you if you have less than 9% of your HP left. It also means the damage doesn't change between each swing.

[Tam]

Perfect dodge > MR? I want a screenie!

[Jin Atsuko]

I don't have a screenie, but, I can vouch for it missing. I have found, though i'd have to test with this more recent patch, that a pdodge'd hit will not detract from the MR swings count.

10k MR5 with a 3x bloody boned weapon would do:
9%hp * 1.4 * 1.84 = 900*2.84 = 2556 damage that would ignore flee, defense, and element (with the exception of ghost).

To note about GD. The most useful part of the skills is the sp drain which increase with the level of the skill. Level 1 does a decent bit, and is easy to spam. GD5 is a bit harder to spam, but drains a lot more initially.

[Tam]

hmmm well i was looking for pally i can use solo in other words stand alone hero and also good in woe
and inRO is indian ragnarok......thanks for the advice will keep it in mind

Stand alone heroes need heal. BELIEVE IT!

[Quad]

Solo paladin :D
The only build then would be something with Heal/GrandCross/Rapid smite.

Sth like this maybe:
Str 71
Agi 1
Vit 60
Int 80+
Dex 60

And MR doesnt hit at lucky dodge.

[Ares]

hmm thanks alot but im set down and i dont want heal cause its takes out sp aswell.....
and i need my sp ...... so i think ill go for GC/MR........is this a good build??

can u give the stats for this????

[MistressTifa]

No offense but you really need to use your head also for these kinds of stuff, not ask around every question possible. If i said you should get 99 LUK 99 DEX 25 AGI on a Build and got other people agreeing with me, would you make that?

You obviously need High Int, a good source of Vit for MR Damage, Good Dex if ure going for possible Instant GC/GD and a Decent Agi for MR ASPD. Go figure out the #s you want urself on a Calculator and post your stats here so we can "Discuss" your Build, not tell you everythin like a baby.

[Ares]

hahahah...........FYI ,,,,, i know everything im jus finding out more incase i missed out on any facts ... and u dont need to answer it if u dont want to i am not forcing u........
and also i know the stats needed but ppl out there might have some good ideas i jus wanted to check them out.....

-thank you



10k MR5 with a 3x bloody boned weapon would do:
9%hp * 1.4 * 1.84 = 900*2.84 = 2556 damage that would ignore flee, defense, and element (with the exception of ghost).

wat i dont understand this part??

where did 1.4 and 1.84 come from??? and also 2.84??

and also say my max hp is 10k its takes 9% which means 900 so remaining hp is 9100hp left no the next shot will take 9% of 9100 or 10k ??

and heres r the stats i am thinking of if im going GC/MR.........

please see if its enuf and will do dmg....

str - 31
agi - 70
vit - 55
int - 90
dex - 40
luk - 1

[Silbear]

1.4 is the modifier of the damage from you 9% of your hp per hit. it says on the skill description, take a look at them since itll help you get a hang of the basics of pally skills

it calculates 9% of your hp times 1.4 as the damage.
then times card modifiers which total 1.84 with 3bloody1boned weapon
i think jin miscalced and meant 900 hp * 2.576 (which is 1.4 * 1.84)
so you will do 2318 per hit WITHOUT woe, poo, cranial etc reductions.

thats just an explanation of what jin said, until someone explains better

you can see how important a high HP is for MR, and aspd too - if you dont get cav mastery your aspd will be like 1 swing/2 secs, and its not advisable to woe without a peco imo

EDIT: i think your vit is too low, but thats just me. and with 40 dex your GC will still be very slow. you could lower agi for more vit too. i still think youre spreading yourself too thin and trying to do too many things with your pally. my advice [for you, not for everybody] is to focus more on int skills or on attack skills, not both... but its up to you in the end. gc/bc/heal/gd would be an easier to make build... but yah

EDIT2: did you add in job bonuses, since your int and dex [less important] dont hit bonuses

[Ares]

hmmmm ok then ......... i've got it ........ ill go for int based cause i like GC........ and im stats r vit-80 int-99 dex-60 without jobs bonus......
ps should i take BC to lvl 10 or jus 1?????

and is MR or GC more stronger??? cause i want the strongest if MR is stronger then i am willing to forget about GC

ok i've done some calc and it turns out that MR has a higher dmg effect than that of GC..... true or not???

[Silbear]

MR will do more damage overall, but keep in mind itll make you lose hp too, more than GC will. if you want to choose only mr or only gc, MR will kill people faster with the right build, but you wont really be able to level as easily until you can tank for parties. also GC can do area damage but MR lets you take out single targets or aid in taking out one target

[Tam]

Stats should be posted with base & bonuses if applicable!

MR/GC -

MR
Plain and simple: Agi, Vit focused

GC
Primary Damage Stat: Int or Str.
Secondary Damage: Dex (cast time)
Defense Stat: Vit or Agi.

It seems Int is going to be your main route if you want to level easier.
40 BASE DEX is not bad at all for GC cast time if you can survive the duration. Once GC goes off, it goes off! I hope this is reasonable to accept that 40 base dex is towards LEVELING not for PvP/WoE w/o support of Magic Strings. Agility or Vitality is good for GC too.

Since you're getting MR though, more VIT may not be a bad idea.

I hope your INT totals out to be 100/105/110 with bonuses.

Well according to the bases, I've figured out a few totals you'll likely to have:

Buffs on your job + regular stats:

31+21 = 52 Str
40+18 = 58 Dex
55+10 = 65 Vit (+5 vit food = win)
70+20 = 90 Agi
90+26 = 116 Int w/ basic GC gear, bless

70 Vit will help you hit 18k easily! Not bad at all if this is how it turns out, perhaps an adjustment with Dex would be nice.

Since you're getting MR, you'll have Sacrifice as well. LOW DEX SACRIFICE SUCKS!

Lower your INT by 1 & STR by 1 so you can get 2 more DEX, then put the rest into LUK lol if you want.
- 2 more DEX so you can hit 75 dex w/ all average dex gear

What will your skill build be like?

[Ares]

wow thats really amazin Tam thanks alot .....but if MR really does more over all dmg than GC i think ill go for MR build pally........now the only thing i have to figure out is wat other skills would go nicely with MR ..........

and stats i think wud be like
vit - 99
agi - 80
dex - 50

these r jus approx .... so yea........

[Quad]

Rapid smite ofcourse :D

Like my build (is 176 aspd with agi and berserk)
http://i23.tinypic.com/2vxofp2.jpg

[Ares]

hmmm ok and wat about shield skills??? ans sac???

and y did u put 60 str ?? does MR also depen on str???

[Jin Atsuko]

it calculates 9% of your hp times 1.4 as the damage.
then times card modifiers which total 1.84 with 3bloody1boned weapon
i think jin miscalced and meant 900 hp * 2.576 (which is 1.4 * 1.84)
so you will do 2318 per hit WITHOUT woe, poo, cranial etc reductions.

thats just an explanation of what jin said, until someone explains better

Ya you're right, thats what I get for doing math to quickly.

My MR/Sac build looks like this:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v627/jinatsuko/RO/rwar_pally.png

Thats with vanity gears/no berserk. I've got 16.7k hp and 174 aspd with berserk/agi up atm... N>moar!

[Ares]

so y again do we need str??? does MR account for it??

[Jin Atsuko]

Oops forgot to mention: I got strength for weight limit. MR damage is not increased by strength.

[Ares]

ok then so thanks for clearing that ....

so i cant have str at 1
vit 99
agi 80 and dex 60

right !??

and skills im still working on it MR/Sac or MR/Shield??? cause RS is out of the question for me some how i really dont see myself doing alot of Dmg wit it

bump....lol.......hehehe

[Jin Atsuko]

Standard MR/Sac build is 100-110 vit, 80 agi, rest dex. So I guess?

[Ares]

ok then awesome ... thanks alot man .....so its settled ill be gettin a MR/Sac pally with
stats

vit-99
agi-80
dex-60

these r without any job bonuses and equips.......

[Quad]

hmmm ok and wat about shield skills??? ans sac???

and y did u put 60 str ?? does MR also depen on str???

STR is for Rapid Smite, more weightlimit = more pots
And i do quite nice dmg with RS at some characters.

Dont forget its quite anoying to run behind someone and only have MR..
And Safety wall > you ^^

[Ares]

STR is for Rapid Smite, more weightlimit = more pots
And i do quite nice dmg with RS at some characters.

Dont forget its quite anoying to run behind someone and only have MR..
And Safety wall > you ^^

quite true ...hmmm:dum:

[Cubical]

Standard MR/Sac build is 100-110 vit, 80 agi, rest dex. So I guess?
mine had:

93+10 vit
63+? agi
76+? dex

I got int in my build because a pure flat out high agi vit pally really sucks for supporting with Sac. They have no dex at all

Also a few things i want to point out:

GD bypasses Sac last i checked. So if you got a sac'ed wiz your dealing with, GD them.
Sac'ed players will bypass EQ damage
As for SW, low level GD works. It drains their sp, so if they start that SW train BS just GD them.
As for something to watch out for, AGI Down. Armond was annoying my HP in pvp, so i would lex and AGI down him. Doesnt matter if you have Tao and 90 agi. I agi down you, i can run circles around you.

@Ares,

I suggest getting some int for regn. Sac, GD and MR can train SP quick. MR is flat out 100 sp to activate. You dont necessarly need 80 agi and 99 vit. you have faith[2k + hp] and a good HP mod to back you up.

Again if your going to Woe/ PVP with it alot, i highly suggest BC lv 1. 80 sp cost, if your in a castle geting divested, it gets rid of it.

[Expt626]

Stand alone heroes need heal. BELIEVE IT!
i agree :D heal rulez for solo pally

[Rav]

I'm sure you can pot blues with whites.

[Cubical]

I'm sure you can pot blues with whites.
Id rather make them with my bio seeing as most blues go for around 15-22k--ranked usually

[Tam]

Battle Sacrifice/Heal/Battle Chant Build

You'll never regret it.

[Jettie]

I remember a topic on RI a while ago about stacking sheild reflect/high orc/valk mant/orc lord cards. Someone was saying something about some of them stacking, i.e. 2 numbers showing instead of just 1. If you had a valk mant + high orc card + sheild reflect would it give more than one reflected damage? I was thinking of this as a quick way to regen sp, each hit from a monster would give 6 sp from moonie dagger.

[Cubical]

I remember a topic on RI a while ago about stacking sheild reflect/high orc/valk mant/orc lord cards. Someone was saying something about some of them stacking, i.e. 2 numbers showing instead of just 1. If you had a valk mant + high orc card + sheild reflect would it give more than one reflected damage? I was thinking of this as a quick way to regen sp, each hit from a monster would give 6 sp from moonie dagger.

I havent tried the moonie dagger thing, but the pally skill and the valk mant reflect do stack. So you see 2 reflect damage[s] going off.

[Quad]

Ya, 2 reflects
http://i20.tinypic.com/e9t8u8.jpg
Should work with moony dagger.

[Ares]

yea but if ur a SAC/HEAL/BC pally i cant be without lvling alone

[Expt626]

yea but if ur a SAC/HEAL/BC pally i cant be without lvling alone

me? I went RS/heal/bc cos i prefer to hunt rares alone. :$: semi decent in parties cept no sac to protect the squishes.

[Ares]

u said rapid smithing or reflect shield??

[Ares]

is Bc at lvl 10 good?? and it gives random buffs right ? can it give 2 buffs at the same time?

[Rav]

no
also, deleted the posts about RS critting since it somehow confused you, and others too I'm sure

[Ares]

ok and BC doesnt give more than 1 buff.......!? bummer

[Silbear]

it cant give 2 buffs in one shot but people can get multiple BC buffs over time assuming they stay in long enough and the chance is high enough - like 2x hp 2x sp +20 stats can all happen before they all run out [1 minute] but you cant choose what buff you get. look at the irowiki main page to read more about pally skills, theyre updated by somebody now

also, BC is still very useful in woe but its up to you if you want to do that role

[Ares]

ok cool thanks and i as well get the buffs right?

[Rav]

no

[Expt626]

the only thing bc does to you is cancels your negative buffs e.g divest, poison, etc

[Ares]

hmmm seems a lost of 10 points to put it there??......and MR and GC dont mix and i dont like RS , sac rocks its fun to play with i dont like heal .... cause dat also takes up sp and alot.... and GD only gives 2k max dmg thats a bummer .....

[Rav]

it cancels all your buffs when used

[Tam]

lv5 GD is great in strings

[Silbear]

gd does 2k always though, it ignores woe reduction/cranial... its in the irowiki description. even last woe it dropped many wizzies i had sacced (GD goes through sac), given it was an instant GD but it still will kill wizards, deal a decent chunk to other jobs and screw people's SP really badly.

when you say sac rocks its fun to play with... do you mean sacrifice the supportive skill? cuz you say MR right before that and sacrifice isnt exactly "fun" to play with.

[Expt626]

gd is easily the most hax skill you are properly setup (150dex under 150 int magic strings buff)

[Tam]

Lv5 GD kills Wizards with only 3k-6k HP indefinitely

[Ares]

yea but only 2k dats sad they should have made it 5k or something that wud have really rocked

[Boom]

yeah how bout 10k non-reduceable damage

actually, it should get increased damage for every equipment trying to decrease it XD

cran + poo + immune = +60% damage

[Bluedreams]

Lv5 GD kills Wizards with only 3k-6k HP indefinitely


Not quite unless the multiple pallys who use it on me every woe only use level 1 or something.

[Ares]

yeah how bout 10k non-reduceable damage

actually, it should get increased damage for every equipment trying to decrease it XD

cran + poo + immune = +60% damage

Oh yeah !!! That would really ROCK then :no1:

[Tam]

Not quite unless the multiple pallys who use it on me every woe only use level 1 or something.

Lv5 kills with strings OH!

[Dynamo]

Gloria Domini kills High Wizard because it drops 2/5 of theirs HP in just one hit!

[Silbear]

that pally with the mjolnir in strings that killed the HW i was saccing says GD does kill wizards... though the HW i was saccing didnt pot and i have no idea why (no it was not sho)

[Ares]

when u say kills in strings what exactly do u mean?

[Expt626]

that pally with the mjolnir in strings that killed the HW i was saccing says GD does kill wizards... though the HW i was saccing didnt pot and i have no idea why (no it was not sho)

sometimes ppl get this false sense of godlike immunity when they get sacc-ed and forget to pot =)

[Ares]

IMPT QUESTION :
when in MR status and on a pecopeco ..... if lvl 10 bash skill is used is the dmg multiplied?????

[Silbear]

MR isnt like edp, you can only use it for the next 5 normal melee hits [no skills]...

also i dont mean edp works with all skills but its an example

edit: normal melee hits = after you use MR, you click on something and you attack it in case that somehow was not clear