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saix
06-23-2008, 01:19 AM
Which one's better?

cuz with 2 Hell poodles atm, Meat's looking pretty attractive atm.

Kumoko
06-23-2008, 08:24 AM
Fish without, meat with.

(Y/N/disco lives?)

kei
06-23-2008, 08:31 PM
fish has lesser weights, meats have lower cost. depending on what your priorities are, use different healing items.

fish is good for staying at a place for a long time, where as i use meats when theres either a replenish of meat items or i won't be leveling for long. Ex. bathories is a good choice to use fish. I would use meat when i'm doing a 5-10 min mobbing run in gef1 or mammo leveling in hill winds where i'd be wearing 2 roasted scents. (hell poodle is not in game yet)




save money = meat, more convience and duration = fish

sillbrink
06-24-2008, 12:31 AM
On all of my agi chars that dont have heal, I use meats + roast nile rose + slaughter mink coat. Twords the later lvls, it is easy to go a full trip of 2 hours+ without ever restocking. Also, meats are very nice for people with very large weight limits like merchant classes (if you arent rev mobbing, a full body + cart of meat will last a while).

Question: Has anybody tested using the Sea Otter Card (Sushi and Raw Fish items restore 50% more HP) when using fresh fish?


Overall
1x Fresh Fish = (1 Meat + 1x Roast Clip)
A meat will cost you 13 more weight a piece, but save you 152z.

Fresh Fish
- 190z ea
- 2 Weight
- Heals for ~125 hp

- Heals for 62.5 hp / weight

- Cost 1.52z per hp healed

Meat
- 38z ea
- 15 Weight
- Heals for ~85hp

- Heals for 5.66 hp / weight
- Heals for 8.50 hp / weight (with 1x roast)
- Heals for 11.3 hp / weight (with 2x roast or 1x Hell Poodle)
- Heals for 17.0 hp / weight (with 2x Hell Poodle)

- Cost 0.447z per hp healed
- Cost 0.498z (with 1x roast)
- Cost 0.224z (with 2x roast or 1x Hell Poodle)
- Cost 0.149z (with 2x Hell Poodle)

Olav
06-24-2008, 05:35 AM
My calculations and illustrations. Prices are with 24 % discount. If you have higher or lower discount, the relation between them are still the same. These numbers are with 0 vit. If you have more vit, the relations are also the same.

Conclusion: Fresh fish is a good allrounder if you have limited weight limit. Meat is the cheapest one. Whites heal faster and should be used for WoE and hard leveling places, but are too heavy and expensive otherwise.

http://forums.irowiki.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=833&stc=1&d=1214307009


HP/weight - higher number is better
http://forums.irowiki.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=834&stc=1&d=1214307009


HP/zeny - higher number is better
http://forums.irowiki.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=835&stc=1&d=1214307009

Golden Fingers
06-25-2008, 08:28 PM
Where do you buy fresh fish? i've never actually looked into it before, just assumed whites where better as they're more expensive.

crash
06-25-2008, 08:44 PM
Down by the boat that goes to Izlude and shit. It's like chef's assistant or something.

Taper
06-26-2008, 02:45 PM
I love my 2x Roasted Nile Roses. I level my blacksmith in CT UG constantly with them and because of them I easily make profit of more than 190k zeny per hour off WSS alone, even though I stock up more than 600 meats each full run (Kafra Cards also helps saves on UG Key expenses as well). For any high str builds I use 2x roasted accessories and save money on meats.

But are the Hell Poodle cards implemented yet? Once they are, I'm getting myself two of them.

Rav
06-27-2008, 09:41 AM
milk, lets do this oldschool
also apples/carrots/potatos so you can spam them all at the same time

Solarcow105
06-27-2008, 10:10 AM
milk, lets do this oldschool
also apples/carrots/potatos so you can spam them all at the same time

^

Last time I saw willyboy in HOs (a while ago), I told him about fresh fish and he told me I should use pumpkins or milk instead. True bad asses eat pumpkins and drink milk while slaying their enemies!!

I love my 2x Roasted Nile Roses. I level my blacksmith in CT UG constantly with them and because of them I easily make profit of more than 190k zeny per hour off WSS alone, even though I stock up more than 600 meats each full run (Kafra Cards also helps saves on UG Key expenses as well). For any high str builds I use 2x roasted accessories and save money on meats.


Wouldn't it be better to stock up on say.... 4k+ fresh fish and stay there for a much longer time? Last time I went to UG, I stocked up on fish and I would mail my other account starsands so I wouldn't have to leave. It's nice if you can do it without ruining the ability to level your other charas. I picked up almost a complete second set of gears (I only have 1 mocking sadly) for really cheap, just so I could leave my smith in bathories for hunting WSS. Granted, I'm lazy as hell now and don't really play my smith much anymore but still, thats what I did for sands.

Deviattor
06-27-2008, 11:37 AM
Did someone say oldschool???

http://folk.ntnu.no/magnusrk/shared/healing.html