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Karu the Great
10-02-2007, 01:06 PM
What do you think is the worst designed card - I mean ones like Coco and Ambernite are bad, but they are from weak monsters. I'm talking about the ones that might be rare or might have been thought to be good, but just utterly fails horribly. My vote goes to Chepet Card - 5% chance to cast lv 5 heal on the enemy. Seriously, who could possibly make use of this besides the extremely rare battlepriest - and even at that, they would do far better with a +20% racial damage card. And it comes from a miniboss so it's extremely hard to find, too.

On that note, S> Chepet Card, iRO Chaos :dum:

Edenknight
10-02-2007, 01:09 PM
Drake Card.

Nivawk
10-02-2007, 01:17 PM
Golden Thief Bug card. You said worst not useless right?

zero
10-02-2007, 01:23 PM
damn, Eden beat me to it. I second the Drake card

Feint
10-02-2007, 01:26 PM
Chepet card would actually have interesting uses for zerosteal on a rogue with the autosteal skill.

My vote goes for Arcangeling card. I was also thinking about a couple of other cards(Bloody Knight, Zealotus, Deviace), but they all seem more useful than this one.

luix
10-02-2007, 02:14 PM
Drake for sure. MVP and near useless.

Follisimo
10-02-2007, 02:14 PM
Zealotus with it's 2luk is useful for potting/upgrading.

Karu the Great
10-02-2007, 02:42 PM
I sold my zealotus card for 40-something mil to a ranked potter so someone out there thinks its useful.

Shadow Lotus
10-02-2007, 08:50 PM
I'd make fantastic use of a bloody knight card too. I could use a Zealotus card as well lol. My vote's for Drake, with this new patch he's a fcking badass MVP with a shitty card.

Dr. Azzy
10-02-2007, 10:29 PM
Yeah, drake card could be a normal monster drop and it would still suck.

Ambernite is worst i think though. There are two cards which do everything it does PLUS other things, and both of them are from monsters that tons of people 99 off of, so they are available by the dozen for like 10k each. Ambernite is truely useless. Can we get +3 instead of +2 def on it plox?

-Az

Aibo
10-03-2007, 10:44 AM
What do you think is the worst designed card - I mean ones like Coco and Ambernite are bad, but they are from weak monsters. I'm talking about the ones that might be rare or might have been thought to be good, but just utterly fails horribly. My vote goes to Chepet Card - 5% chance to cast lv 5 heal on the enemy. Seriously, who could possibly make use of this besides the extremely rare battlepriest - and even at that, they would do far better with a +20% racial damage card. And it comes from a miniboss so it's extremely hard to find, too.

On that note, S> Chepet Card, iRO Chaos :dum:

Chepet card could be fun on a low str battle sage with decent int.

Dante
10-03-2007, 10:47 AM
Deviace Card. D-u-h for its multi-race-but-pathetic modifers. Good for lazy bum-ers who only got 1 +10 4 slotted weapon, though. Who knows you'll be the last human alive in Midgard. Quadruple Deviace Cards might come in handy :P

Nack~
10-03-2007, 11:01 AM
why would it be good for a low str battle sage?:(

Gaby
10-03-2007, 11:01 AM
Deviace Card. D-u-h for its multi-race-but-pathetic modifers. Good for lazy bum-ers who only got 1 +10 4 slotted weapon, though. Who knows you'll be the last human alive in Midgard. Quadruple Deviace Cards might come in handy :P

if a monster change element/size/race randomly witch will never happen

Cloud
10-03-2007, 12:37 PM
Honestly i think its Drake card.

Eschaton
10-03-2007, 03:19 PM
Those few Ghoul cards that are stuck inside sunglasses.

Iluvatar
10-03-2007, 03:34 PM
I'd say Kapha? +8 MDef in anything refined +0~5 is pretty useless when you can get a Ragamuffin for lower prices.

Bahamuttiamat
10-03-2007, 09:01 PM
The worse, most useless card in ro has to be sandman card. Endows lvl 1 earth property but lvl 1 earth property does not reduce earth atks.... Ifrits (pasana) do...

As a matter of fact, the card is more problematic since fire based attacks do more damage u.u

Hadas
10-03-2007, 09:25 PM
All of the cards listed here are pretty bad... But Argos Card takes the cake as the single most useless card in the entire game.

Swift_Arrow
10-03-2007, 10:04 PM
The worse, most useless card in ro has to be sandman card. Endows lvl 1 earth property but lvl 1 earth property does not reduce earth atks.... Ifrits (pasana) do...

As a matter of fact, the card is more problematic since fire based attacks do more damage u.u

so your saying it wont reduce damage from say a wiz doing earthspike?

Boom
10-03-2007, 10:10 PM
Level 1 Earth takes 100% damage from Earth property.

Ichigo
10-03-2007, 11:19 PM
Ghostring Card. http://rode.doddlercon.com/db/images/monsters/1120.png














....waiting for the trolls to hack n slash away.

Golden Fingers
10-04-2007, 01:18 AM
I'd have to go with Drake. It does get bonus points for being an MVP card.

ArcAngeling card is actually quite useful for a super novice, or any build that has >77Luk.

As for normal cards, yeah deviace would be the one. Theres a few others that are completely redundant, but they get priced accordingly. Deviace doesnt heh.

Amar
10-04-2007, 08:00 AM
Pirate skeleton card is the most useless for me. Who needs a lvl5 discount when everyone has a merchant.

Digital Love
10-04-2007, 08:06 AM
Doesn't drake nullifie size?

If you put that in a icepick, will your icepick do 25% more on medium and 50% on large??

Ichigo
10-04-2007, 08:09 AM
Doesn't drake nullifie size?

If you put that in a icepick, will your icepick do 25% more on medium and 50% on large??

I'll admit I that I wanted a Drake carded Ice Pick before, but frowned upon it after a stat calc and someone convinced me otherwise. Usually higher STR covers base ATK dmg, which Drake is trying to make up for. So you're better off putting a race or +ATK card in the ice pick. I'd say wait for the future Atroce MVP card :O +25 ATK and chance for double aspd for 10 seconds is sexy on an emp...

Nibbles
10-04-2007, 11:20 AM
Isn't the size modifier applied to the weapon attack, only? So all the base attack that you get from Strength (and the minimal boosts from Dex/5 and Luck/5) is completely unaffected by it? In short... it's Weapon Perfection.

Ichigo
10-04-2007, 11:23 AM
Isn't the size modifier applied to the weapon attack, only? So all the base attack that you get from Strength (and the minimal boosts from Dex/5 and Luck/5) is completely unaffected by it? In short... it's Weapon Perfection.

my mistake, base ATK of the Weapon. and yes, it's weapon perfection. hence its added title "Perfect"

zero
10-04-2007, 11:27 AM
no, Drake's card is "of Infinity". Phreeoni is "Perfect"

Ichigo
10-04-2007, 11:31 AM
:( @ work /fail

Aibo
10-04-2007, 11:38 AM
why would it be good for a low str battle sage?:(

Against undead your heal 5 will do decent additional damage as they will likely have high int. With low str % cards will not do much. As far as autocast spell cards go, this is the easiest to get multiples of at a fairly low price in my experience.

Finrod
10-04-2007, 12:09 PM
Wow, i was looking at the wrong page!

I have a +9 1x Chepet Morning Star [2]. I might put in an Anti-Undead card when one comes out. It can work nicely for a Battle Priest with decent INT (which I have) to level with. Nothing beat beating down on shit and having that Cast a 1000 damage heal to a Zombie Prisoner.

My vote is Drake Card. How more fucking useless of a card could they even come up with?

Nack~
10-04-2007, 12:15 PM
How much is "decent int"? =o

Edit: I still think a percent card would be better for a battle sage with over 60 str for the attack speed boost=(

houndog
10-04-2007, 12:34 PM
My vote goes for Arcangeling card. I was also thinking about a couple of other cards(Bloody Knight, Zealotus, Deviace), but they all seem more useful than this one.

Actually if you build a GC sader with 77 luk that double sp regen is pretty sweet, even better if you get angeling and pharoah card, GC sader with mag would probably be able to run around gcing without ever sitting.

My vote goes to Drake card, hard to get and unless they add like +10% more damage, a 20% damage card does more.

nneg
10-04-2007, 01:08 PM
Hydrolancer card ithink is pretty bad maybe then only useful in pvp but even then probably still negligible.

Deviattor
10-04-2007, 01:23 PM
To add to the list, Wootan Fighter and Shooter are pretty dire. Crap names too - Bleed Resistant and Confusion Resistant respectively.

Feint
10-04-2007, 01:46 PM
Actually if you build a GC sader with 77 luk that double sp regen is pretty sweet, even better if you get angeling and pharoah card, GC sader with mag would probably be able to run around gcing without ever sitting.

My vote goes to Drake card, hard to get and unless they add like +10% more damage, a 20% damage card does more.

I have yet to see a GC sader with higher than...1 Luk. And I wanna see the crusader who gets 77 Luk instead of putting it all into Str(or Int, Vit, Dex...).

nneg
10-04-2007, 04:53 PM
Orc archer and raydric archer have pretty much no use also.

Samias
10-04-2007, 05:05 PM
The sting card. It's just one of those cards where you'd rather leave it on the ground instead of picking it up. +2 def and +5 mdef for +9 shields or higher... tell me why I'd waste my valuable overupgraded shield on a meager defense bonus like that?

themvpah
10-05-2007, 10:08 AM
+9 sting valk shield for HW camping obviously, with mdef stacking

Metaling card is terrible. 1% chance to use divest weapon level ONE? youll never strip anyone with that

Nack~
10-05-2007, 10:36 AM
I stripped somebodys momma with that WOOoOoOOoOooOOO *waits for high five* =D?

WK
10-05-2007, 04:52 PM
If anyone is willing to sell me a drake card, holla please.

Aibo
10-07-2007, 09:22 AM
How much is "decent int"? =o

Edit: I still think a percent card would be better for a battle sage with over 60 str for the attack speed boost=(

With that str % cards would likely be better. But new battlers these days tend to have no str at all and 90+ int for the soul link so if u had a quad chepet mg it would have a chance of doing 1kish heal each time it activated.

Nack~
10-07-2007, 09:59 AM
suppose:(

i'm too old school! oh no;_;

The Grim Reaper
10-07-2007, 04:47 PM
With that str % cards would likely be better. But new battlers these days tend to have no str at all and 90+ int for the soul link so if u had a quad chepet mg it would have a chance of doing 1kish heal each time it activated.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't a previous test prove that all the cards that give you a proc don't add any effect after the first one. I mean, extra copies of the same card = no extra chance of proc = waste of slots.:?:

Boom
10-07-2007, 05:06 PM
I've heard that before too but it doesn't make much sense. Everything that gives a similar effect in this game stacks (i.e. 2xhydra/valk shield+marse/beret+thara frog/etc). There's no good reason and definitely not a proper way to test that similar auto-cast cards don't stack.

Bato
10-07-2007, 06:33 PM
I tested quad metalling MG and single metalling MG. One doesn't proc more often than the other.

kei
10-07-2007, 06:54 PM
I tested quad metalling MG and single metalling MG. One doesn't proc more often than the other.

does it take 308 hits to stipe a weapon ? or aanything less ?

Gaignun
10-07-2007, 07:11 PM
Orc archer and raydric archer have pretty much no use also.
Hey, I used a Desirable [Orc Archer] Clip on my AFKemist in Zenorcs. I got about 10 Box of Panting because of it. That's nearly one yggberry worth of SP recovery!

Boom
10-07-2007, 07:16 PM
I tested quad metalling MG and single metalling MG. One doesn't proc more often than the other.How extensive was your test? numbers plz.

Treken
10-07-2007, 07:54 PM
Megalodon is by far the worst. :P

Bato
10-07-2007, 09:41 PM
does it take 308 hits to stipe a weapon ? or aanything less ?

Less, I was doing i on a stalker with 80-90 dex, and strip weapon 5.

How extensive was your test? numbers plz.

Spend half an hour stripping a high priest with quad metalling and single metalling various weapons (in and out of sw to test it out as well). Both took approximately 30sec to proc.

Aijia
10-08-2007, 06:32 PM
When the chance to strip comes up? Is it possible for it to fail? Or will it strip regardless of dex amount.

Alaskan
10-08-2007, 06:40 PM
Ancient Mimic Card 18 BASE LUK = +1AGI???
Actually, Dame of Sentinal isn't bad. It'd give my SL or Minstrel like 3~4 DEX to the armor. Great for reaching instant cast and 160 DEX respectivly.

Bato
10-08-2007, 06:58 PM
When the chance to strip comes up? Is it possible for it to fail? Or will it strip regardless of dex amount.


It just cast the skill. The skill itself has the same chance to fail than if you cast it manually.

Hadas
10-08-2007, 08:33 PM
Alaskan: Could be useful on a crit sin for a few extra points of agi...

Banisher
10-09-2007, 03:35 AM
Megalodon is by far the worst. :P

Except for RWC where it's a damn useful card.

Dr. Azzy
10-09-2007, 09:51 AM
Metaling card is terrible. 1% chance to use divest weapon level ONE? youll never strip anyone with that

well, seeing as half the classes in RO might as well relog when they get thier weap stripped, that seems reasonable. Playing a weap-dependant class, i'd rather get gfisted - it would save me the trouble of respawning.
Divest weapon is scary.

Metaling card = if your CP isnt coated, you might as well not bother to have a CP.
-Az

Leviant
10-09-2007, 11:39 AM
Crab /Aster Card damit

Rastaban
10-09-2007, 11:51 AM
Sting card?

DEF +2, MDEF +5 if the shield is upgraded up to +9 or higher?

Anyone who puts one of those pieces of shit into a +9 or higher shield shouldn't have a +9 or higher shield in the first place.

RazorBlazE
10-09-2007, 01:30 PM
Yea for the highest rarity to worthlessness ratio card I ever found.

30% chance to posion enemy when sin class is hit.

1. Sin classes get hit?
2. Enchant posion?
3. Envenom?
4. venom dust?
5. venom splasher?
6. P react?

*sigh*:dum:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/RazorBlazE/more%20RO/screenLoki1435.jpg

Tam
10-09-2007, 08:47 PM
Metaling card = if your CP isnt coated, you might as well not bother to have a CP.
-Az
Battle Chant wins

Nack~
10-10-2007, 12:39 AM
You say that as if you are going to be able to get a paladin to run over to the down CP team and BC them before the guild attacking you rush you and destroy you =/

Sora`
10-10-2007, 08:44 AM
Battle Chant to have a chance to get a single status effect you want? Just being in BC doesnt remove the strip debuffs. It removes it from the paladin when he casts it because it debuffs everything, positive and negative.

Nack~
10-10-2007, 05:49 PM
I've never said epic fail before. Would this be an appropriate moment? locke could tell me:(

Hankie Pankie
10-10-2007, 05:53 PM
Yea for the highest rarity to worthlessness ratio card I ever found.

30% chance to posion enemy when sin class is hit.

1. Sin classes get hit?
2. Enchant posion?
3. Envenom?
4. venom dust?
5. venom splasher?
6. P react?

*sigh*:dum:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/RazorBlazE/more%20RO/screenLoki1435.jpg

That seriously made me laugh. Love the comment in the screeny. xD

nneg
10-10-2007, 06:30 PM
I've never said epic fail before. Would this be an appropriate moment? locke could tell me:(

For you the correct time is never.

Nack~
10-10-2007, 06:34 PM
damn! well that can be my goal. working towards...never lol

nneg
10-10-2007, 06:39 PM
damn! well that can be my goal. working towards...never lol

It'll come.

Crazy Neko
10-11-2007, 10:53 AM
Sandman card is usefull when a) U R SL with kaite casted and reflecting fire bolts. b) need a bit of wind def (no dokebi in kafra)

Ichigo
10-17-2007, 09:59 AM
Kobold Leader Card.
+30% Damage to Kobolds.

Unless you're CRAAAAAAAAAAAZY about Kobolds (zeny bot farmers pay attention), it seems pretty useless.

Feint
10-17-2007, 10:10 AM
Goblin Leader card...