Biochemist dueting with a FS HP?

[Bluedreams]

It's been a while since I've thought about this subject...places biochemmis can AD level with a FS priest that is worth the supplies. I had quite a good PM convo with someone on RI about this but of course, those PM's are long gone.

I'm more looking for the options to get to 90, cause dueting labs 3 seems to be fairly straightforward.

I know abyss (3?) is good...but the job exp isn't so hot. However, labs job exp would correct this I think?

The person I talked to said he was able to duet level 8 thanatos quite well, is this actually viable? I guess you just wait for odium to change element and slam him.

Has anyone tried AD in Thors? The only thing I heard was "two casts per monster". Is it doable or better off going to abyss?

Anywhere else I'm missing?

[Reiz]

I duo in TT8 a lot. It's really easy and straightforward. Poly all deathwords and ancient mimics and wait for lex to kill the angels so you can one shot. Its really good exp/hr ~6m after everything is poly'd iirc. It is decent job as well.

[Andy]

Ancient mimics in Abyss3 sux doesn't it?
How is Odin3? too much bombs?

[Bluedreams]

Woo, thanks Reiz, that helps tons!

I assume ancient mimics in abyss would be easy enough to poly...

The problem with Odins would be the lack of job exp...

[Cubical]

It's been a while since I've thought about this subject...places biochemmis can AD level with a FS priest that is worth the supplies. I had quite a good PM convo with someone on RI about this but of course, those PM's are long gone.

I'm more looking for the options to get to 90, cause dueting labs 3 seems to be fairly straightforward.

I know abyss (3?) is good...but the job exp isn't so hot. However, labs job exp would correct this I think?

The person I talked to said he was able to duet level 8 thanatos quite well, is this actually viable? I guess you just wait for odium to change element and slam him.

Has anyone tried AD in Thors? The only thing I heard was "two casts per monster". Is it doable or better off going to abyss?

Anywhere else I'm missing?


Belth got slaved in TT8, i remember walking up to the top of the tower, the guy had poly morphed monsters he didnt wanna deal with.

So yes, TT8 is best bet from my experiance. Let me check on thor's..

Kasa = 31 VIT [38k job exp]
Salamander = 44 vit [55k job exp]
Bow Master = 33 vit [23k job exp]
Sword Master = 54 vit [122k job exp]
Byrogue = 12 VIT [9k job exp]
Imp = 30 Vit [11k job exp]

TT 8

Baroness of Retribution = 66 Vit [33k job exp]
Dame of Sentinel = 56 Vit [33job exp]
Lady Solance = 29 vit [25k]
Mistress of Shelter = 34 vit [25k]
Odium = 165 vit [63k]
and polymorph the mimics and books

the answer is obvious, TT8

[Forgottenesper]

TT8 - Poly things into passive/stationary things. Bomb everything else. Wait till Odium element changes and rape. Easy way to get to 90 slaved and/or partied.

Bio3 - Even after the changes, it's still possible to bio3. Make sure you take out any HPs right away and find a good spot. Nothing has changed other than that. (camping snipers is now alot more dangerous now though)

[Boom]

:o Wow are you finally rebirthing

[Bluedreams]

Yeah I've been slowly preparing for it, it wasn't going to be this weekend but with the exp event my partner is like omg rebirth now now, should be fun!

Thank you all for the help!

Possibly stupid question, does poly clip and azoth work together, ie, more chance of monsters changing, or do they cancel one or the other out?

[Cubical]

Yeah I've been slowly preparing for it, it wasn't going to be this weekend but with the exp event my partner is like omg rebirth now now, should be fun!

Thank you all for the help!

Possibly stupid question, does poly clip and azoth work together, ie, more chance of monsters changing, or do they cancel one or the other out?

I think poly clip reffers to you getting hit by a monster. Azoth just poke away and hope for the best. Just pray to the gods you dont poly a bio3 hiwiz in TT8

[Bluedreams]

Hmm:


Add the chance of transmogrifying a monster while fighting.




I think it's the same as azoth no?

You bring up a good point though, poly/azoth + high orc buckler = win?


Just pray to the gods you dont poly a bio3 hiwiz in TT8

Er, that would hurt :D

Guess I should bring cranial and unfrozen to swap to for those...cases.

[Nack~]

poly clip is you hitting the monster:(
i've been using one to make the ridewords go away in frames for tanking :( I hate frames=)

It would be cool if it stacked with azoth though lol:(

[Cubical]

Hmm:




I think it's the same as azoth no?

You bring up a good point though, poly/azoth + high orc buckler = win?




Er, that would hurt :D

Guess I should bring cranial and unfrozen to swap to for those...cases.

Not sure about high orc buckler, but poly and azoth do the trick. Your better off bringing hell or alice type buckler[all except death word and ancient mimic are boss protocall] to TT8. Nothing in TT will break weapon or armor, so bring armor of desert or ares. I wouldnt worry about a bio3 hiwiz being polymorphed. Not sure what the formula is for polymorphing bio3 stuff but its pretty hard to get one.

If you DO spawn one, your out of luck...it'll just JT you then JT your priest dead. Unfroze and cranial still wont save you from her wraith.

What level is the biochem? A few people here were saying, "zomg u rebirthing!1!1?" Dont expect to hit TT untill you get acid bomb open. Thats lv 5 prep pot, lv5 pot research, 5 bomb , 5 acid, THEN the skill opens[j21 out of the gate]. Then you need job 31 to have it maxed. Your best bet is to get mamo 10 as a merchant and get heal slaved in dark frames. Then you also want to think about homunculus points as well and where they fit in. Or aid pot.

[bara-chan]

HO buckler probably would work, as it's possible to tank-poly using the reflected damage from a valk mant.

[Bluedreams]

Oh, my alchi is still 99.

After rebirthing I wouldn't even expect to hit thana til the early 80's. Most baby biochemmis I see go to abyss as soon as they get AD...

[Erin]

I've bombed lvl 1 thors and found the base to be about the same or a little lower than tt. TT has never been good for me since the walk up there is a bitch and my ISP loves to crap out on me at the worst possible times. The main thing about thors is it uses up grenades a lot quicker and the sword guardians make you have to tele a lot. Overall I'd say go with TT8 if you can get there easily, and just azoth the mimics/deathwords or bring a class that can kill them. If tt is a problem, try thors. And I wouldn't even worry about job exp once you get acid bomb and whatever else you feel you NEED. Bio3 will make up for the jobs later.
Also thors isn't BAD job exp, it's just a lot less than you could be getting in tt8. The good part about thor is if you die it's fine since you can warp to the map before it. Overall I prefer Thors even though it's slightly more bombs (unless you get lucky and find mostly kasa instead of imps). And not having to take the time to azoth stuff is always a plus.

[Sora`]

You can go to TT8 a lot earlier than 80s if you choose to, you'll just want to have strings to make it fairly safe. I remember taking our potter up there before it even had acid bomb 10. Lexed shots were still able to take out the monsters starting at lvl 6 or so.

I never did like the idea of Abyss because the only monsters that are even worth it are the yellow acidus. I cringed when I used to see people bombing the green and red ones. The green ones give the same amount of exp as a Sting??

[Dr. Azzy]

I went to TT at 63 iirc - It reached 20m/hr slaved when things went well, later on. This was pre-exp nerf, so now i'd expect ~13m/hr.
-Az

[Forgottenesper]

HO buckler probably would work, as it's possible to tank-poly using the reflected damage from a valk mant.

Was just about to say this.

I belive poly clips and azoth all stack. (well - they all have a chance of activating on attack, so it polys faster)

I went to TT7/8 with acid bomb 5, actually. <<;; Battle manuals were not in existance then, but with fallen angel shoes and a hp slave, I got to acid bomb 10 and level 70 quite quick.

[Bluedreams]

I went to TT at 63 iirc - It reached 20m/hr slaved when things went well, later on. This was pre-exp nerf, so now i'd expect ~13m/hr.
-Az


Hmmm, I must of missed this, when did the exp there get nerfed?

[WK]

I never put my +0 HO guard and my polynilerose into kafra on my HP. Nuff said. =)

[Arktisch]

I've seen some biochemists going bomb Odin 3, skeggiolds, they have nice base and bad job, but i never tried both maps, need support and more bombs -.-