View Full Version : Stat Redistribution.
Jayed
10-10-2007, 08:43 PM
In case any individual here does not check iRO forums.
Well we have gathered that there is significant support for both the
Full reset at the cost of base levels
and the remove x stat points to recover their distribution points
We have looked into the drawbacks that may come from each type of reset. Drawbacks like,
1. Is it too restrictive making it a pointless offering?
2. Would it really unbalance the game in that those with hard builds would lose some of their worth?
3. Will the offerings make players less desiring to play?
Looking at the possibilities the removal of base levels while appropriate for some players (who really want to try and abuse the system and wouldn't mind releveling) it is too much of a burden for many players, who just want to fix some mistakes like misclicks or item updates.
So our current leanings is to offer the option to reset upto 20 stat points
for example:
96 str -0
30 dex -10
70 agi -2
30 int -3
25 vit -5
10 luk -0
---------
= 20 stat points
Most likely this will be from the 10-15 dollar range available only 1 time every 3 months per character.
For those that would really rather reset to 1/1 (such as if you are low level) then the GM team can offer that as a normal GM inquiry option. Of course the GM team would have to verify you are the proper person to be making such decisions for the account first, but it is something that they can offer.
Certainly not next maintenance, it will be a value added service, so some systems will need to be built on our end as well as some ironing out with the payment systems etc. I do not have a time line on when it will go live, but the process is moving now.
Hmm... well I didn't really want to see this happen at all, but I suppose they picked the best option out of all of the available ones.
I know that I definitely can think of a few ways to personally make use of it, though it really does feel like abuse.
wongbr
10-10-2007, 09:21 PM
wtf, still means i cant redistribute my 26 luk on my hunter =/
Jayed
10-10-2007, 09:54 PM
20 this month, 6 in 3 months?
Thorton
10-10-2007, 10:22 PM
20 stat points for 10 or 15 bucks that fucking gay.
Digital Love
10-10-2007, 10:30 PM
I can put back my stalker to level 1/1?
Polly
10-10-2007, 10:32 PM
damn money grubbers... dumb idea. good if you misclick a stat and have extra RL money, i guess...
Cute Wittle Corgi
10-10-2007, 10:34 PM
with TKMLOD is there a point now
wongbr
10-10-2007, 10:35 PM
At least make it more worthwhile, maybe more like 30 stats.
You can only do it 4 times a year.
Isaboy
10-10-2007, 10:52 PM
with TKMLOD is there a point now
In 3 months you can make i think 5 8x trans chars just with a thors leech? Starting from scratch, and also since legal mulit clients are in (lol who wasn't using them before) it seems like you could just make a new trans char if you messed up. But i guess if you're 99 or high 90's trans it might be usefull to change your stats slightly. Also if you're poor in game and don't have friends this is useful.
I can see both options being useful.
Xellie
10-10-2007, 11:02 PM
Oooooo the GMs listened to my idea!
I like both options! Since updates are like every 3 months too... you could restat to keep on top of updates. That'll be awesome.
Nivawk
10-10-2007, 11:10 PM
Kind of dumb...there shouldn't be any stat resets in any form, but I guess they'll do it since they can get money out of it. 50 cents per stat point lol.
Awake
10-10-2007, 11:46 PM
... :|
Perhaps I should start suggesting things at the iRO forums.
Jayed
10-11-2007, 02:23 AM
link to official thread
http://iro.ragnarokonline.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=5262&start=361
Simple.
10-11-2007, 08:01 AM
Every so often--as in every few patches that can fundamentally alter the game--they should offer 1 free stat reset. True, some could abuse it and redo their 99 into an impossible to level build, but I don't see this as a big issue. Anyone who would find use of an impossible to level build could easily abuse the array of easy leveling schemes that have been, and will continue to be, released. The number of people stuck with a build that has been outdated by patches outnumbers that of people who would choose impossible builds.
If they're charging money though, give the buyer the entire thing--all stat points back free to distribute. Maybe, for the whiners, make it only once a month or some interval deemed "fair". Because let's face it, Ragnarok is getting old, and they have to find new ways to generate revenue.
This is awesome, and I'm sure it will be funny when the mindless "fix" their builds. I wonder how many high priests will spend the next half year resetting to 6x int, and then the remainder of the year resetting back up to 99 int. Only thing I'm going to change is getting 80 int on my HP that never wears eru from 84/85, and maybe dropping from 61 to 56 int on the other.
One note: I hope you'll be able to only remove as many stat points as you wish at a time. For exampe, you'll have 20 stat removable credits, and just removing 4 stat points leaves you with 16 credits left that you can use anytime later.
The only thing I dislike is that it doesn't seem to accomodate for those spare points you put somewhere else because you messed up your build.. i.e. I know someone who has 5 luk that is useless and they don't care about, they just couldn't get anything else and it was pointless to just save their stat points forever. Maybe stats under 10 (or a bit more), that are only even worth 2 real stat points, could be worth .5 stat point credits each.
The Jesus
10-11-2007, 09:17 AM
I'm 100% against any form of a stat reset but of all the options they proposed I suppose this one isn't all that bad.
Alaskan
10-11-2007, 09:26 AM
No complete sacrafice of anything and controlled to not be immideatly abuseable. Not bad. Still take like 2 resets to tweek my TKM stats to get him 99 STR. SL would take 1.
Im a kafra shop whore btw so this shouldn't hurt me... T^T
Evaansan
10-15-2007, 09:40 AM
Nice for those who misclicked when putting stat points.
fenryl
10-15-2007, 11:03 AM
great idea, sucky price... (btw does it mean that if i stat reset now and in 3months i can for exemple reset 40 stat points? 20 twice? wich means that in a year u could reset over 80 points and completely change a build)
alekth
10-15-2007, 11:14 AM
Yes, pretty much. Don't see that as very abusable though, first of all in that time you can just make another character, and in the mid-stages between your current and final, completely changed build, in a lot of cases you'd have a build of suck good for nothing.
Inferno Nightblade
10-15-2007, 11:17 AM
great idea, sucky price... (btw does it mean that if i stat reset now and in 3months i can for exemple reset 40 stat points? 20 twice? wich means that in a year u could reset over 80 points and completely change a build)
I think that - considering the balance implications - the price is fair. But that's just me.
And yeah, I think stats are the huge thing in terms of balance - for example, an int/vit priest with ME is still going to have a really slow cast with ME. An int/dex priest can already be a decent support, though he doesn't have the tanking abilities of an int/vit.
And yes, you could revamp a build over the course of a year, but at the price of $60 (which is the estimated price) and the time of a year...you could easily make a replacement character, even on a separate account. Certainly a moderately-leveled trans, and maybe even a high-leveled one.
I'll probably try this out - I was kind of thinking of fixing a few things with my stalker. (I like him now, but he could be a bit better.)
coolfish1103
10-15-2007, 11:42 AM
They could simply implement a NPC to do the exact same thing instead of charging people zeny. This is just another way of earning real cash from the fellow gamers since the populations of the game are dying.
Jettie
10-18-2007, 08:36 AM
Wait I dont understand this. So 20 points, lets say I have 80 points in str, can I go down to 60 points in str and then take whatever stat points that frees up and put it to other stats? Or lets say I have 30 luk and I wanna go to 10 luk, same deal? This is confusing.. :confused:
In other words, is there a difference between what you get going from 99-98 in a stat than there is going from 2-1 in a stat? 99-98 you get 11 stat points to use, where going from 2-1 you only get 2?
Edit: after reading it again I think I get it now, what I said is true right? If so thats pretty nifty.
Eiyonzir
10-19-2007, 09:36 AM
Nice for those who misclicked when putting stat points.
That's why people need to learn to use /str+ xx or /vit+ xx.
You need a space between the + and the number if memory serves me right. You can't blame lag or anything else when you use that to attribute your stat points.
Bastien
10-19-2007, 10:18 AM
That command is awesome, although very few people know about it. And between those who know, lots of them have learned it through private servers.
I'm sure people can make typos that way, and by eliminating the misclick problem it probably causes more. The statement that this reset helps people who messed up still stands, regardless of their source fo error. What I'm thinking of is those people who are totally, totally out of it and do something really stupid like putting all their spare points into agi instead of vitality or int..I don't think any method of stat point allocation could save them/these situations (doesn't apply to that one HP, yeah he knows who he is <3_<3). At least this way, they can try again.
Gaignun
10-19-2007, 01:01 PM
Commands do little to prevent misclicks when one accidentally allocates one point to VIT when pressing ALT + A to check stats while moving (ie. me two years ago).
might as well just hcange the mistake into something better. i remember my hunter long time ago had 10 str cos i misclicked it once. i might as well get the next small ATK bonus.
Eiyonzir
10-19-2007, 02:55 PM
That command is awesome, although very few people know about it. And between those who know, lots of them have learned it through private servers.
Actually, this was discussed last year on RI, making the information slightly more available.
I'm sure people can make typos that way, and by eliminating the misclick problem it probably causes more. The statement that this reset helps people who messed up still stands, regardless of their source fo error. What I'm thinking of is those people who are totally, totally out of it and do something really stupid like putting all their spare points into agi instead of vitality or int..I don't think any method of stat point allocation could save them/these situations (doesn't apply to that one HP, yeah he knows who he is <3_<3). At least this way, they can try again.
Never said the reset doesn't help. However as nice as it is to have such a ressource, people actually do need to learn from their mistakes. I feel bad for that hp (I actually know who it is), but look at people who broke leveling gears while upgrading other things. Some actually began to take off their leveling gears as a precaution. Others simply pay more attention, or take their time. The last two are simple enough that anyone can make use and benefit from them.
Inevitably, when a mistake is made, there are consequences. I think it's nice that they're implementing this partial reset somewhere in the future. I also think people should know better. If putting points in the wrong spot would bother you, then maybe you should pay more attention. Might seem a bit harsh, especially since it's a game; but what makes sense to me, might be a puzzle to you all.
I could see people wanting others to be screwed indefinitely for their mistakes just because they put so much effort into being cautious, so it wouldn't be fair that now other people can have "flawless" (accident free) builds. Personally, I don't feel that way. I like having more leniency - now I don't have to be intensely focused on my screen when adding stat points because there is room for error, just like in a lot of situations IRL.
Eiyonzir
10-19-2007, 06:31 PM
In the end, this will be a feature used less for that purpose, than fixing planning errors. People who make those sorts of mistakes aren't as common as people who make mistakes in their builds. Both matters could depress a player to the point that the game might be less enjoyable, so it does have it's advantages. I can see gravity making a lot from this, as builds will keep on becoming "obsolete" as new patches and gears are released.
Lenaxia
10-20-2007, 10:48 AM
I actually agree. This may potentially bring some players back who are willing to spend the money to update their older builds but aren't willing to put the time into remaking a new character. Also, as people have said, the time it takes for someone to completely change their build they could've made a new character, especially with the broken things like Thor's and Bio3. I think its fine.
So has anyone mailed in for a reset back to 1/1?
So has anyone mailed in for a reset back to 1/1?
I mailed them,saying i want a statreset for sinX and attached a jpg with my scanned ID,accountdata,etc and they said they will reset my sinX back to 1/1 but i have to send them a f****ng Fax (dont have one) with my ID,data,etc.
A friend of me will send the fax to them, im curious how long it will take.
Seems like everyone who wants can have a 1/1-highnovice reset now.
Aurora
10-22-2007, 08:10 PM
I'm almost willing to bet that someone will try turning into a different class as a high novice.
I mailed them,saying i want a statreset for sinX and attached a jpg with my scanned ID,accountdata,etc and they said they will reset my sinX back to 1/1 but i have to send them a f****ng Fax (dont have one) with my ID,data,etc.
A friend of me will send the fax to them, im curious how long it will take.
Seems like everyone who wants can have a 1/1-highnovice reset now.
Oh keep us updated! I just want a partial reset myself but would be good to know for future reference!
whippy
10-22-2007, 08:28 PM
oh god.. iro is turning into value-added-service pserver
I LOL'd
Shiorin
10-23-2007, 02:49 AM
Yes, they offer resets to 1/1 high novice right now.
They might also make silly mistakes LIKE THIS (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/zanbiexanvier/iro/screenLoki648.jpg)
Sheba
10-23-2007, 03:00 AM
Yes, they offer resets to 1/1 high novice right now.
They might also make silly mistakes LIKE THIS (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/zanbiexanvier/iro/screenLoki648.jpg)
OH SHIT! I loled!
Samias
10-23-2007, 08:20 AM
Hurry and make the most ultimate novice!
Hurry and make the most ultimate novice!
^I AGREE, DO IT FOR NOVIE PRIDE
Bastien
10-23-2007, 09:52 AM
Extra as in leveling doesn't give points ?
Renouille
10-23-2007, 10:20 AM
As in, I shouldn't post right after waking up. :heh:
Fearless
10-23-2007, 10:33 AM
Yes, they offer resets to 1/1 high novice right now.
They might also make silly mistakes LIKE THIS (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/zanbiexanvier/iro/screenLoki648.jpg)
I was wondering how I saw you bolting geos on a high merch...
Tikyo
10-23-2007, 12:03 PM
so in other words. they make you 1/1 with account authentication giving you all the points based on your highest level?
Eiyonzir
10-23-2007, 12:08 PM
Or is this simply a grave mistake?
Tikyo
10-23-2007, 12:17 PM
oo by the way. what is the fax number?
(lazy =)
Friend has sent fax this morning and tadaa ^^
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3205/atumresetxs5.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atumresetxs5.jpg)
@Tikyo : you have to send them an email via email-inquiry saying that you want statreset.
They will send you an email back with the request of a fax you have to send them to them, which has to contain a scan of your ID-pass, your accountdata (accountname,phone number,adress,etc) and a confirmation that you want a reset to XX charname on YY server,to a given number.
oh god.. iro is turning into value-added-service pserver
I LOL'd
Well the reset to 1/1 is actually free, i'd have thought they woulda charged for that. But perhaps they feel that if someone resets to 1/1 they are gonna spend a decent time levelling and will get money from subscription and/or want to tempt old players back.
^ or they need test subjects
Nealix
10-23-2007, 10:04 PM
This whole thing inspired me to skill reset my linker back to his original build so I could get 1st trans spirit back :D
Time to ~*try*~ and fax again.
Sheba
10-24-2007, 02:24 AM
I really should give it a try, so I can go full STR LK. Not sure if they can read french ID cards. Where is my godamn fucking passport!
Deviattor
10-24-2007, 05:17 AM
Yes, they offer resets to 1/1 high novice right now.
They might also make silly mistakes LIKE THIS (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/zanbiexanvier/iro/screenLoki648.jpg)
lol, I remember someone on RI posting this happening on pRO or something. A Knight got rolled back 40 levels or so, then got to 99 with tonnes of statpoints. No one knew and just thought he had an absolutely godly build. ):
wongbr
10-24-2007, 09:32 AM
errr
if my age isnt properly put on the site...i have no chance of a stat reset?
made the account a long fcking time ago when I wasn't of age...
now 5 years later, I dont think i have the proper identity stuff
should i still send it? or will i get banned for false submission
Bastien
10-24-2007, 09:37 AM
Maybe wait for the pay to reset 20 points option ?
errr
if my age isnt properly put on the site...i have no chance of a stat reset?
made the account a long fcking time ago when I wasn't of age...
now 5 years later, I dont think i have the proper identity stuff
should i still send it? or will i get banned for false submission.
Amend your acct details first.
wongbr
10-24-2007, 07:59 PM
cant change the age
I think my age in my info is like 30+ or something (I was 14 when I made my acc? 15?). I've always put down my correct date of birth (1988) when they asked for my info for the past years though though, such as for requesting email changes, and I've never had any problems.
ThoranX
10-24-2007, 11:17 PM
not a bad idea
Terpsichore
10-24-2007, 11:39 PM
I remember gravity completely making some maxed skills useless (endure), adding new cards and gear that can make your build outdated, insanely boosting x skill so if you don't got it already you are a subpar char, screwing up builds, etc.
I don't like the idea of paying for reset, but they should offer a free reset on major updates and changes.
And before making things like leveling pure forge bs that hard and with no option to reset, they should add to them some real features, not just crappy forged elemental weapons, there are already tons of those dropped.
P.D: and in other hand, all that cash crap is pure bullshit that only contribute to imbalance the game even more, ro is not some subpar "free to play" attempt to mmorpg that need those services to survive, gravity became too greedy and careless, and they are not doing anything useful now, ro2 is like forbidden.
cant change the age
Email them and tell them you made an error in your acct details and can provide a photocopy of id to prove your current details.
gravity became too greedy
They are a business. Their player base is falling. Operation costs increase with inflation but they have not increased subscription fee as long as i have played. The shop gives them increased revenue while not forcing ppl to use it.
They have already excluded some items they view as too imbalancing.
grav could prob offer free subscription with all the money they make from people who buy hundreds of dollars of pay items per month
Cute Wittle Corgi
10-29-2007, 09:47 AM
P.D: and in other hand, all that cash crap is pure bullshit that only contribute to imbalance the game even more
Eh, not necessarily. I mean its your choice to buy the items if you're a serious ragnarok online WoE/pvp player but I know quite a few people who'd buy the chick hat.
Personally, I buy life insurance and big fly wings for gimmick purposes.
Terpsichore
10-29-2007, 11:03 AM
So, spending money is what now defines a "good and serious" player? No thanks.
Cubical
10-29-2007, 01:18 PM
So, spending money[gives you more benefits] is what now defines a "good and serious" player? No thanks.
Money doesnt = power in this case...maybe with those shitty Rental items >.>
More benefits, so if i pop a insurance card..lag and die i wont be emo bombing on someones face
Course this could also be used in a negative sense, like for a leecher
Cute Wittle Corgi
10-30-2007, 11:33 AM
Money doesnt = power in this case
I don't know, that drooping alice hat is pretty messed up, as well as the red glasses (+5 mdef/1 def) whenever they come
Jayed
10-30-2007, 01:22 PM
Drooping alice has crap def and can't be upgraded. That's a pretty fair trade off I think. A little unusual it was slotted, probably, though. Not that there are very many good headgear cards for a drooping alice.
Cute Wittle Corgi
10-30-2007, 02:04 PM
Drooping alice has crap def and can't be upgraded. That's a pretty fair trade off I think. A little unusual it was slotted, probably, though. Not that there are very many good headgear cards for a drooping alice.
serious woe headgear + serious woers = peerless?
Jayed
10-30-2007, 02:24 PM
Why would you stack +10% offensive damage that is basically halved when you could wear -10% reduction gear that isn't nerfed in woe?
Why would you stack +10% offensive damage that is basically halved when you could wear -10% reduction gear that isn't nerfed in woe?
You would wear +10% offensive damage when you're going to gangbang someone in WoE to make sure they don't break pre-cast
Golden Fingers
10-31-2007, 03:24 AM
Well the reset to 1/1 is actually free, i'd have thought they woulda charged for that. But perhaps they feel that if someone resets to 1/1 they are gonna spend a decent time levelling and will get money from subscription and/or want to tempt old players back.
Its not so much that you have to rework for it, but the mechanic for a reset to Trans 1/1 is already ingame hence they dont need to spend time/money building it.
They need to recoup the costs of designing and implementing this service (20 stat reset) after all.
Skill resets have been free so far as needed because skill changes really can ruin builds, but there really isnt a dire need for a free stat reset at updates. No equipment or skills have stat requirements and your stat build wont become worthless due to new equipment.
I would probably only use this is i had a 99/70 trans and one of the stats in question was 99 or needed to be 99. Otherwise i could fix it buy leveling.
Cubical
10-31-2007, 12:39 PM
I don't know, that drooping alice hat is pretty messed up, as well as the red glasses (+5 mdef/1 def) whenever they come
Im going to beat someones face in if they put in that rental crap.
The Jesus
10-31-2007, 02:31 PM
You would wear +10% offensive damage when you're going to gangbang someone in WoE to make sure they don't break pre-cast
QFT - Alice hat certainly has its uses in WoE.
Im going to beat someones face in if they put in that rental crap.
Yeah I'm not really the "fuck this I quit" type but I'd have to seriously reconsider my RO subscription if this happened.
Scyber
11-01-2007, 12:20 AM
Yeah I'm not really the "fuck this I quit" type but I'd have to seriously reconsider my RO subscription if this happened.
You might as well quit now then.
I think I put two str in too much :(
I need a stat reset IMMEDIATELY!
Sheba
11-02-2007, 06:59 AM
Any peco trans class willing to reset: dont forget to demount the peco. I speak from personal experience.
Any peco trans class willing to reset: dont forget to demount the peco. I speak from personal experience.
What happens if you don't? :o
Simple.
11-03-2007, 07:40 AM
You're dismounted in real life.
Deaths
11-03-2007, 08:55 AM
You're dismounted in real life.
hahaha
stat reset sucks :(
Sheba
11-03-2007, 12:26 PM
What happens if you don't? :o
You end up wtih atrocious attack speed because you are still considered as mounting the peco, but with no peco mastery to correct the attack speed.
Loyalty
11-22-2007, 08:19 PM
So basically I can reset my "W.e" character for 20 stat points and 10-15 dollars? I am confuzzle and I dont feel like reading this whole thread =P.
read the whole thread asshole
Loyalty
11-22-2007, 10:56 PM
read the whole thread asshole
People like this I just LOL at because they dont have enough braincells for me to comment back on.
Vigorvamp
11-23-2007, 10:37 AM
No equipment or skills have stat requirements and your stat build wont become worthless due to new equipment.
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iRO: Pest Card (http://www.rocards.de/Item%284315%29.rc) http://www.rocards.de/images/cards/card_a_315.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:showcard%28315%29;) Item Class: Card Weight: 1 NPC sells: - Compound on: Armor Req. Level: 1 NPC buys: 10 Applicable Job: Every Job Suffix: of Stone Curse Description: Add the chance of auto casting Stone Curse (http://www.rocards.de/Statusveraenderung.rc#StonCurse) on an enemy when the user receives Physical Damage.
The chance is increased if the user has 77 or more INT points.
iRO: Rybio Card (http://www.rocards.de/Item%284194%29.rc) http://www.rocards.de/images/cards/card_a_194.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:showcard%28194%29;) Item Class: Card Weight: 1 NPC sells: - Compound on: Armor Req. Level: 1 NPC buys: 10 Applicable Job: Every Job Prefix: Overpowering Description: Add the chance of auto casting 'Stun (http://www.rocards.de/Statusveraenderung.rc#Stun)' on an enemy when the user receives Physical Damage.
The chance of casting 'Stun (http://www.rocards.de/Statusveraenderung.rc#Stun)' is increased if the user has 77 or more DEX points.
iRO: Giant Whisper Card (http://www.rocards.de/Item%284303%29.rc) http://www.rocards.de/images/cards/card_a_303.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:showcard%28303%29;) Item Class: Card Weight: 1 NPC sells: - Compound on: Garment Req. Level: 1 NPC buys: 10 Applicable Job: Every Job Prefix: Mystic Description: Flee Rate+ 10.
ATK +20 if the user has 80 or more STR points.
Max HP +3% if the user has 80 or more VIT points.
Critical +3 if the user has 80 or more LUK points.
iRO: Amon Ra Card (http://www.rocards.de/Item%284236%29.rc) http://www.rocards.de/images/cards/card_a_236.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:showcard%28236%29;) Item Class: Card Weight: 1 NPC sells: - Compound on: Foot Gear Req. Level: 1 NPC buys: 10 Applicable Job: Every Job Prefix: Protective Description: All Stat +1.
Add the chance of casting level 10 Kyrie Eleison (http://www.rocards.de/Priest.rc#kyrie) around the user when reciving Physical Damage.
The chance of casting the skill is increased if the user has 99 INT points.
iRO: Doom Slayer [1] (http://www.rocards.de/Item%281371%29.rc) http://www.rocards.de/images/item/1371.jpg Item Class: Two-Handed Axe Weight: 600.0 ATK: 10 NPC sells: - Weapon Level: 4 Req. Level: 80 Slots 1 NPC buys: 0 Applicable Job: Swordsman Class, Merchant Class Property: Normal Description: A gigantic and ridiculously heavy axe that requires great strength to use it properly.
Reduces Attack Speed by 40%, and doubles SP consumption of skills.
If base STR is 95 or greater, this weapon adds ATK +340, a 30% chance of inflicting the Stun (http://www.rocards.de/Statusveraenderung.rc#Stun) status and a low chance of destroying the enemy's armor with each physical attack.
iRO: Ulle's Cap [1] (http://www.rocards.de/Item%285123%29.rc) http://www.rocards.de/images/item/5123.jpg Item Class: Head Gear Weight: 50.0 DEF: 3 NPC sells: - Equipped on: Head Top Req. Level: 1 Slots 1 NPC buys: 10 Applicable Job: Every Job except Novice Class Property: Normal Description: A woolen hunting cap once worn by Ulle, god of hunting. Just wearing it makes you feel like you can hunt down any beast.
DEX + 2
AGI + 1.Set Effect:
If the wearer has 70 or more DEX and is also equipped with Odin's Blessing (http://www.rocards.de/Item%282353%29.rc), this cap reduces SP consumption by 10%.
Gaignun
11-23-2007, 02:46 PM
Well, that was an unnecessarily large amount of effort to disprove an erroneous claim.
Vigorvamp
11-23-2007, 02:50 PM
Not really. Ctrl C Ctrl V.
The point is that new equipment does and will mold the stat builds people choose. Including equipment that doesn't directly have stat restrictions.
My aim was more to inform than disprove, sorry if it came across otherwise.
Gaignun
11-23-2007, 05:27 PM
It's okay. I forgive you.
Jayed
12-19-2007, 12:54 PM
I disagree that those items upset builds or any other silly notion that gravity "screwed someone over". Those items are meant to reward certain builds to try and balance out weaker builds with stronger ones. Or certain gears were meant to be used by certain classes only. Plain and simple.
For example, Amon Ra card requires 99 INT, not because your Lord Knight sucks if you didn't build him or her to 99 INT, but because it was meant for high-INT Priests to use, not other classes (though wizard can clearly use it). Probably because fewer people have been going 99 INT priest since the addition of High Priest.
wongbr
12-19-2007, 01:43 PM
dont forget biochemists
Yugioh
01-17-2008, 08:38 AM
Heimdallr 1/17/2008 2:56 AM
"we will be implementing the partial reset as soon as possible. Current projects are delaying the process but that doesn't mean it won't happen. If nothing is done in the next 20 days I'll run another poll. We'll see if the community really wouldn't mind the full reset."
Yes, the GMs freaken need yet another poll.
Fish!
01-17-2008, 12:20 PM
i want full stat reset with no going back to lv1
Swift_Arrow
01-17-2008, 12:30 PM
While their at it they should give everyone 99/70 so noone has a reason not to just go to woe and pvp anymore. Well besides timezones and crap.
Jayed
01-17-2008, 02:37 PM
Heimdallr 1/17/2008 2:56 AM
"we will be implementing the partial reset as soon as possible. Current projects are delaying the process but that doesn't mean it won't happen. If nothing is done in the next 20 days I'll run another poll. We'll see if the community really wouldn't mind the full reset."
Yes, the GMs freaken need yet another poll.
As if it isn't bad enough they've been stewing on the results of the last poll for over 6 months.
Avarah
01-17-2008, 02:43 PM
Hmm... I don't have much that needs resetting, at least on my main characters. How much are they going to charge for it? $15 is too much for me to spend to move around 3 points.
crash
01-17-2008, 04:17 PM
Hmm... I don't have much that needs resetting, at least on my main characters. How much are they going to charge for it? $15 is too much for me to spend to move around 3 points.
I face a similar predicament. But overall, I oppose full stat resets especially if they have been rolling people back to 1/1 for months now. I can imagine quite a few people being extremely unhappy if there are both stat and skill resets now after being rolled to 1/1.
Pusher
01-18-2008, 12:22 AM
A full stat reset will just make it harder for some people in woe, and easier for others.
Example: Int/Dex Scholar goes Dex/Vit. Yes they are ME and full support. they also get face fucked by acid bomb/ice picks. "But they have ME now!!! They can stop my precast!!!" Then get better highwizards to Ganbant it away.
There is a benefit to the community for every change.
BattleSmith->Forger... "THEY DIDNT EARN IT LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO GRINDED THROUGH A REAL 99/99 FORGING BUILD."
Yeah well neither did all the people that ever leeched anything at all. ever. Also, its going to drive the price of elemental weapons down so stfu.
Reguardless of who changed to what, no matter who you are its still 1,212,495,545 exp for any trans to go from 1-99. If they have accomplished that and put in as much if not more or less time leveling than you. Also, I'm sure that diffent builds have different difficulties leveling ie. Int scholars can kill, where as dex/vit scholars can tank/are better supporters.
And besides, to gravity its all about the:$:
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