what is hindsight??? how do it works

[chris53185]

hey guys,

im just a starter here and im planning to build a sage, a hindsight sage particularly.
99agi 99int is my goal. but i have a big problem on how will hindsight works?
-Can I set what spell will be auto casted by hindsight?
what if i have fire bolts and lightning bolts and i want only fb to be casted on earth property monsters, is that possible?
-Can I set what level 1, 2 or 3 the spell will be autocasted?
-how will it work combo to free cast? ( im confused)

ty,
chris, pRO
P.S. when i get to lvl 99 hindsight sage, can i be a support scholar as a transcedent char? does it reset all stats and skills iget during my 1st and second jobs

[Ahina Reyoh]

When you cast Hindsight, it brings up a list of the spells you can use with it. You select one of them, and Hindsight will cast that one spell only until either it expires or you cast Hindsight again.

Bolt level is random every time it procs, you can't control it unless you get a Sage soul link, then they'll always be level 10 if you have that bolt maxed.

EDIT: When you trans, you're back to 1 in all your stats. You can start whatever build you want, no matter what your build was pre-trans.

[charlestio]

I'd like to add though, that the skill Hindsight, when cast, only goes off when you hit a monster in melee; i.e. using a book, dagger or your bare fists - and only has a 16% of doing so per hit. (but with high enough ASPD, it goes off quite often actually.)

In other words, this skill is primarily meant for battlesages who attack with with their books while casting spells - it is totally useless for a support sage or the more common caster.

For it to work with freecast (casting while walking away / casting while moving), you must first cast hindsight (a self skill) and then select the desired spell (if you got most of the skills during your mage days, then all the bolt spells will be available, as well as Frost Driver, Fireball, and SoulStrike). It then remains activated but does nothing until you hit something physically. You can cast a normal bolt spell while hitting a monster, so in that manner, there's a chance for both skills to "attack" that monster at the same time.

A note: if you intend to be a support sage - better to put in more dex and vit rather than agi - so that you can cast faster and get more HP, respectively. Good luck.

EDIT: oh ok, I misunderstood - you mean to become a support scholar after you transcend - in that case, I'd simply advise you to get lower values of INT and AGI and give some love to your other stats - like DEX to hit your targets (and yes to cast a bit faster) a little bit of VIT and STR if you're seriously going after a goob Battlesage build.

[Deviattor]

You don't need to hit for Hindsight to proc.

[charlestio]

To make sure we're talking of the same thing, Hindsight is also known as "Autocast" and is different from "Freecast".

Actually, you need to melee the monster, but you do not need to actually hit (you can miss but still cast a random bolt) - here's the official skill description from iRO website:

Prerequisite: Free Cast Lv.4.
This skill is mastered at Lv.10.
Enable the automatic casting of spells while physically attacking enemies for Hindsight`s duration. Spells consume 2/3 of the required SP, but the caster cannot cast skills through Hindsight that he has not yet learned.

and here's the link:http://iro.ragnarokonline.com/game/libraryListSkill.asp?Category=14

EDIT: DEviattor is absolutely correct - you don't need to hit the monster for the random bolt to activate - you only need to start attacking it physically.

[Deviattor]

I'd like to add though, that the skill Hindsight, when cast, only goes off when you hit a monster in melee; i.e. using a book, dagger or your bare fists - and only has a 16% of doing so per hit. (but with high enough ASPD, it goes off quite often actually.)

Like I said, you don't need to hit for Hindsight to proc.

[Teon]

I thought it was a 25% chance?

[Ahina Reyoh]

Yeah, it got upped to 25% proc a long time ago. 16% was the old rate.

[chris53185]

then what will be your recommended job lvl 50 mage skills for hindsight works effectively. does it auto cast lvl 10 bolts too if i have it on my mage skills

[Teon]

It was suppose to autocast the maxed bolts you learned including lvl 10 bolts. I was told there was a glitch and it never went higher than 3 bolts unless you're link...

From my experience, I would maxed all bolts (maybe including Soul Strike or not...) and maybe sp recovery if you marry a Soul Linker slave. The rest really is up to you.

[Bluedreams]

It's level 3 bolts unless you get a link, then it's level 10 bolts.

[charlestio]

with linking from a soul linker, the lvl 10 bolts will activate only if you have learned lvl 10 in that particular bolt. If you only put in 8 skill points in Fire Bolt for example, then when you are linked and it activates, you will only insta-cast lvl 8 bolts.

@ Teon: appreciate the heads-up - I didn't know about the increase to 25%. More reason to go battle sage!

@chris: having an effective hindsight build only requires two maxed-out skills: hindsight itself and freecast (to maximize aspd). the rest of your "effectiveness" will come from your stats - namely, AGI. (more attacks per second, more chances for your bolts to go off.)

[frapps]

@chris: having an effective hindsight build only requires two maxed-out skills: hindsight itself and freecast (to maximize aspd). the rest of your "effectiveness" will come from your stats - namely, AGI. (more attacks per second, more chances for your bolts to go off.)

you're forgetting study & dragonology

and int is superior to agi in terms of hindsight.

[charlestio]

@ frapps: true, study increases book-class weapon damage and adds to your overall damage while you melee, although I'd posit that your main damage will be coming from your spells and your auto-casts. Or do you mean it as a pre-req sir?

Taking that into consideration, You're also right in saying that INT is as important as AGI when considering damage from a hindsight build(it determines your damage after all) - though again in my opinion, you'd need to make sure you get max advantage of that 25% chance to activate per attack - hence my emphasis on the AGI stat. That's what "Hindsight" is all about after all - auto casts.;) - in the end, a balance between the two is what's needed.

I'm not sure what you mean by dragonology though.. - although if you mean effectiveness against dragons, that would certainly be true..

[Zanril]

Dragonology adds +3 or +4 int at level 4 which is why he mentioned it.

[Deviattor]

A certain balance is required but Int is still superior to Agi.

[Dispel]

Yeah, it got upped to 25% proc a long time ago. 16% was the old rate.

So do you want to max hindsight or just leave it at level 4? If you pick Fire Bolt for your hindsight spell, it'll has a 25% chance to proc' at level 4 hindsight? I wasn't sure if all of the proc' rates were increased generally or not from the spell description and what I've seen on wiki.

[carbon]

So do you want to max hindsight or just leave it at level 4? If you pick Fire Bolt for your hindsight spell, it'll has a 25% chance to proc' at level 4 hindsight? I wasn't sure if all of the proc' rates were increased generally or not from the spell description and what I've seen on wiki.


http://irowiki.org/wiki/Hindsight

you get hindsight at a higher lvl for two reasons: better % to proc and hindsight lasts longer.

[Dispel]

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Hindsight

you get hindsight at a higher lvl for two reasons: better % to proc and hindsight lasts longer.

Yeah but I wasn't sure if it was worth it if the level you picked (level 3 bolts at level 4 hindsight) came with the proc' rate =P. Thankies!

[carbon]

Yeah but I wasn't sure if it was worth it if the level you picked (level 3 bolts at level 4 hindsight) came with the proc' rate =P. Thankies!

i have hindsight maxed cause... i'm really not doing anything but lvling with hindsight and don't want to keep recasting it every 3mins

[WK]

Dragonology adds +3 or +4 int at level 4 which is why he mentioned it.
+3 at lvl5.

[meso]

+3 at lvl 4 actually.

[charlestio]

@Zanril & frapps: thanks - I didn't know about the additional int from dragonology( after years of playing sages!!). Although I'd opine that its a waste of skill points just to get a few additional int, with our skillset already spread out as it is.

@Deviattor: you're certainly entitled to your opinion ^^

@Dispel: at level 4 hindsight you get a very poor 13% chance per physical attack for the spell to activate, so level 10 for battlesage is highly recommended.

Question: what does "proc" mean? Second question: the 25% chance to activate at level 10 refers to the bolts activating, but I've read a long time before about the sub-percentages associated to the single, double, or triple bolts - like: its a 25% chance for it to activate right, but what % is it for 1,2 or 3 bolts to go off? Always wondered about this.

[Dr. Azzy]

+3 at lvl 4 actually.
Yeah. Relog once you get lvl 4 and you get the extra int.

"proc" means process, or trigger, or whatever. Like, the chance for the bolts to go off in this case.

The relative chances for lvl 1/2/3 bolts dont really matter. I think it's 50/30/20. Without sage link, your DPS will suck, and for practical purposes, that's really all you need to know.
-Az