Smith headgear cards

[kei]

So ... I just obtained my +8 S. Orc helm

and now i'm wondering, what card to slot inside. Theres so many new cards that i don't know what is what anymore. Back in the days, i've never even considered cards for headgears for smiths. so ... no idea whats availiable out there.

Cards that are viable that i've thought of:

-Cramp card (with tarou combo of course)
-Devi Card
-Def increasing cards while increasing resistatnce - help me name them please, i've seen them, but no idea which ones are available out there
-grand peco card (though i heard the gloria procing interferes with manueverability)

any others that can be recommended? either that or point me to a database that can actually show me all headgear cards and i'll do my own analysis.


EDIT: also taking recommendations on futre cards.

[FoldersUnite]

Perhaps nightmare? Agi and sleep immunity.

[Jack]

Wait for Vanberk Card. :D

[crash]

Wait for Vanberk Card. :D

This or Maestro and pray it doesn't break going +9.

[Bronx]

I've always been a big fan of +1 defence headgear cards. Stainer was always my favorite until Stalactic Golem came out. I think I sold my +10 Cap of Aristotle for 12m, and damn did that thing have some diesel defence. Stalactic Golem might have to be the best +1 defence card for headgear out now. The resistance to stun is nice to have if you don't have 100 vit.

You could opt. for Str giving cards for your orc helm, but if the added Str does not constitute you hitting a str bonus, then it might or might not be worth it. Willow card is an option if you want more sp.

I've had Grand Peco before. The added defence and vit from the combo are nice, but the random singing might disrupt your mobbing process. I found it most troublesome when I went to kill a mob, and the after cast delay of Gloria would keep me from revoing, thus having me tank more damage. Also, I perfer elemental armors when lvling, and the combo needed me to ditch my ifrit chain.

Carat would be my number one option if the helm were to ever make +9. I wouldn't attempt another upgrade until I had a back up +8. With the way upgrading is nowadays, I dunno if it's a good idea. 10% success with normal elus, 11% success with enriched just doesn't seem too encouraging. I'd attempt a +9 if you really had your heart set on that Carat, and are willing to scrap everything for an additional 2/3's a defence point.

[kei]

Wait for Vanberk Card. :D

whats it do?

[crash]

+2 STR and chance to get 100% crit for a short while. :>

[harb]

leib olmai

[Jack]

whats it do?

STR + 2
When attacking there is a small chance that for 5 seconds you'll gain CRIT + 100.

http://ro.doddlercon.com/wiki/index.php?title=Card_Update

[Dingo]

I've enjoyed my grand peco card, as I don't mob much and have a crit build, plus it bumps me over 9k hp when soloing, which is a nice cushion.

That Verberk card sounds fuckin sweet though... :O

[Morge]

Morge want vanberk! If 11.3 doesn't get here soon I'm going to cry.

[rlw~]

+9 and carat imo

[Solarcow105]

I'd say +9 and carat or go for vanberk/cramp.

Honestly, while the vanberk card sounds cool, I'm a big fan of the magni's set. The def and +4 str from the set are really nice for my smith. If you wanted the str, go with cramp + tarou or vanberk for non shield situations (or times when you aren't wearing magni's set).

Other than that, a lieb might be nice for thors, though I think you can only get 95% fire resist with leib + welding + skin tempering + valk shield + flameguard.

[Sora`]

Go for +10 and put a LK card in it for a +4 str headgear!

[crash]

I'd say +9 and carat or go for vanberk/cramp.

Honestly, while the vanberk card sounds cool, I'm a big fan of the magni's set. The def and +4 str from the set are really nice for my smith. If you wanted the str, go with cramp + tarou or vanberk for non shield situations (or times when you aren't wearing magni's set).

Other than that, a lieb might be nice for thors, though I think you can only get 95% fire resist with leib + welding + skin tempering + valk shield + flameguard.

Fire-Proof Pots aren't that expensive or hard to make. Also he'd be just fine with the Leib Card in a +7 Cap or something that is much easier to get his hands on.

[zero]

Vanberk would be a good choice, if it wasn't coming out til 12.1. Dunno if you could wait that long.

[kei]

hmm .. i guess for thors with 85% fire resist and 20% neutral resist isn't so bad ...

that means their fireballs would do 3k without assumpt and fire armor ... instead of 5.5k ..

but then again .. i'd much rather have 105% fire resist

[WK]

Morge want vanberk! If 11.3 doesn't get here soon I'm going to cry.

It comes with ep12 sadly. :\

[crash]

hmm .. i guess for thors with 85% fire resist and 20% neutral resist isn't so bad ...

that means their fireballs would do 3k without assumpt and fire armor ... instead of 5.5k ..

but then again .. i'd much rather have 105% fire resist

I was wearing a +4 Lucious Fire Armor, Welding Mask, Fire-Proof Valk Shield and Skin Tempering 5, and I was only taking about 800 from Fireball and 40~60 with Meteor Storm - Fire Proof Pots were hardly necessary, but when I did use them, I took about 500 from Fireballs.

On the other hand, I probably would have died from Clashing a whole lot with out an Immune. :<

[akwof]

Though many would disagree with me, I always liked marduk headgear. Saves me

green pots, weight, and a hotkey space.

[Morge]

It comes with ep12 sadly. :\


I know, but one step at a time. =P

[Sarune]

If you have the money (and you're lucky as hell) you should get a +10 Seryen Windsor Marionette Doll. That's 5 str right there on the top headgear alone.

[Erubus]

If you try to slot a headgear and its upgraded will the upgrade go away?

[Sarune]

I don't know what this has to do with smith headgears, but yes, the upgrade will go away. The NPC basically gives you a new item which is slotted. It doesn't actually add a slot to the headgear.

[Erubus]

Sorry just wondering cause I have a +10 Orc Helm lying around and was wondering if I tried to slot it if I could use a +10 Vanberk Orc Helm :P

But yeah either way, vanberk sounds like it'll be pretty good when its out.

[Ralt]

Gemini card? :/

[kei]

hwat does it do ?

[crash]

[Base Agility >= 90]
Add a 30% resistance against Silence and Stun.
[Base Vitality >= 80]
Add a 30% resistance against Stone Curse and Sleep.

[Dingo]

How is that a good card? You have to get way too much of one stat for it to be useful..

[crash]

If you plan on wearing a Valk Armor with it, that's 80% stun resistance - another 20% from Stun-Proof sunnies, you don't stun OR take damage from Acid Bomb. Given, you've got terrible maxHP even at 99, but a lot of people will try using Ice Picks and bombs on you if they think you're status immune. It has advantages and drawbacks - I wouldn't personally do it, but it's an option.

[Sora`]

If you got 90 base agi on a smith you need to go delete your character

[kei]

If you got 90 base agi on a smith you need to go delete your character
hmmm ... its arguable :P

*waits for magi to notice this thread*

[Haku`]

If you got 90 base agi on a smith you need to go delete your character

whew, i guess i dont need to delete :p

[Bronx]

Some smiths perfer really high attackspeed? *Shrugs*

[Vertol]

Try Nightmare card, sleep status armor is strong vs MS:cool:

[GingerAle]

I'd prefer Greedy headgear. I have greedy&insomniac gemmed sallets and marduk detective hat.
Oh, and does %-stun immunity stack? And does it stack with vit-immunity to stun?

[Zable Fahr]

Of course, but multiplicatively.

Given, you got 50% Stun Resistance from Cards
And you got 50 Vit

So you basically got the chance of 50% for being stunned minus the percentage from vit --> 25% Chance of being stunned at all. The duration will only lower by getting vit.