Opinions on Counter Instinct

[Cute Wittle Corgi]

I wish they would've made this reflect all attacks so it'd be a worthwhile skill (I got level 3)

its a life-saver in pvm though

[tuikyuo]

Not like it'd be over powered since it happens at a % chance and only three times.

[Cute Wittle Corgi]

Not like it'd be over powered since it happens at a % chance and only three times.

re-cast every other time

[Avarah]

Honestly I'd rather have backstab 10 than CI. Hawt spammable damage.

[nyamo]

CI is godly in pvm imho.

i love seeing half damage from brandish from a sting /rice

[RazorBlazE]

And it cuts Rapid smite damage in half if the person has a sword or dagger on from range o.o!

[saitorashi]

It's decent for the Tao Gunka wielders. Otherwise, not really useful except for pvm.

[superslothsonya]

sorry for dredging up an old thread, but i was just wondering the other day whether it would be worth getting counter instinct prior to fullstrip for my stalker (primarily pvm orientated, woe very rarely when i have the time, some minor mvping/mini boss killing) and my questions are probably most relevant to this original thread topic. i had a look in the wiki but theres no more explanation there other than the official skill description so i have a few questions:

- what is the skill duration? (how long will it last if you take no hits)
- do the three blocks work only for dmg that manages to hit you? (ie. misses don't count)
- does a failed block count towards the three? (ie. dmg hits but is not blocked)
- i know that for pvp it will only block dmg if the attacker has a sword equipped, but are there any limitations as to which monsters it works on?
- can skills be blocked? (i'd imply 'yes' from the comments above but i just wanted to double check)

i'm job 57 atm, with all the skills of the preserve tree and strip skills up to full strip 1. with a skill simulator i saw i could still get CI and FS maxed eventually, so i am trying to decide if it would be worthwhile for me to invest skill points into CI for my next few job levels.

[alan4589]

I have some questions too (sorry no answers)
Why do people think it is better to get level 3 over level 5?
Is it worth getting for a stalker who does not need strip? (ie: a lot of wasted skill points)

Also for a str stalker how useful is the 16+ str buff from soul linker when using stealth? Like does it get too annoying always going back for re-soul linking? and then having to be in stealth for 10 secs? Cos it seems to my build it is CI vs Stealth

[Sparkous]

The only reason people get counter instinct level 3 is because they got stealth 5. There is almost no purpose in transing to a stalker if you do not get full divest, although if you are 100% sure you will never pvp or woe then feel free I guess...although it does have some use for tanking/supporting in pvm.

Each link lasts almost 6 minutes, the 16 str bonus lasts for 5 minutes AFTER you cast it regardless or whether the link ran out or not. Otherwise it lasts for 10 minutes. And yes, the 16 strength is useful. If you are killing an ice titan it lowers the killing speed by several seconds...

[alan4589]

There is almost no purpose in transing to a stalker if you do not get full divest

My reasons were I don't like pvp and I don't have the time to commit myself to a guild let alone a woe guild.
I really enjoy pvm a lot, and my stalker kicks so much arse over my rogue. Preserve makes it so much fun to play, I get to wear gears only trans can wear, I look cooler, and have better stats and bonus etc :P


Each link lasts almost 6 minutes, the 16 str bonus lasts for 5 minutes AFTER you cast it regardless or whether the link ran out or not. Otherwise it lasts for 10 minutes.

Hmm I don't really get this sorry. When you say the str bonus last 5 mins after I cast it, do you mean cast link or cast stealth?
And what do you mean by it lasts for 10 minutes? so I can get in two of the str bonuses before the 6 min link runs out?

[Bato]

Link last 6 minutes, str bonus 5min when linked.
If you recast stealth before your link runs out, you get the full 5min of str bonus, even if the link runs out in between.

[Kaato]

i heard that reductions from CI and Asumptio doesn't stuck is it true?

[superslothsonya]

It seems my questions got missed in the middle of this thread XD i'd still like to know some things about CI from people with experience =)

- what is the skill duration? (how long will it last if you take no hits)
- do the three blocks work only for dmg that manages to hit you? (ie. misses don't count)
- does a failed block count towards the three? (ie. dmg hits but is not blocked)
- i know that for pvp it will only block dmg if the attacker has a sword equipped, but are there any limitations as to which monsters it works on?
- can skills be blocked? (i'd imply 'yes' from the comments above but i just wanted to double check)
(full post found about 5 post back)