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Offline remrem

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Dispel Nerf
« on: July 14, 2009, 09:45:01 AM »
now that they nerfed EDP, i think it's time they nerf dispel.
 
eg. reduced chance by mdef+luk, or something like blvl vs blvl modified by dispel lvl being used.
 
what do u think guys?

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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2009, 09:46:29 AM »
Fuck yes. Most screwed up skill I swear. Don't know how it should work, but 100% chance to remove all buffs is really insane.

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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2009, 09:58:56 AM »
Dispel 5 working with 100% success rate in pvm/mvp is a must, in my opinion.

They could change it like acidbomb so it works only with 50% success rate vs players at level 5 but 100% vs monsters.

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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2009, 10:01:15 AM »
But it is such a fun skill = (
 
Maybe 70%,like soul burn would be more fair?

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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2009, 10:01:31 AM »
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Dispel 5 working with 100% success rate in pvm/mvp is a must, in my opinion.
 
They could change it like acidbomb so it works only with 50% success rate vs players at level 5 but 100% vs monsters.
Probably yeah. I was talking from a PvP/WoE standpoint only. The first thing I think of when I think of dispel is "fuck my entire row of buffs is going to go poof in a sec". Yeah, I play blacksmith =/

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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2009, 10:02:54 AM »
dispels the best thing sage class has left.  Imo 2 different types of dispel would be a better balance then %chance to remove buffs.  1 that removes magic buffs (ec/bless/agi/bc buffs) and one that removes melee buffs (adren rush/2hq/speed pots/parry~wpn blocking/guard/reflect).

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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2009, 10:06:53 AM »
I also play prof,and its true that it must be kind of realllly annoying for ws xD; I love to target them ^^;
 
The funny thing is thats its only a sage skill xD!
 
Don't touch ma dispel please : (
 
And also,before asking for a dispell nurf,would be nice to wait to see what sorcerers will get =0
« Last Edit: July 14, 2009, 10:08:55 AM by Do Re Lee »

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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2009, 10:26:33 AM »
How about if the chance is, say, 80%, it applies to the chance of removing each individual buff instead of the whole thing? This would leave some things standing and the sage/scholar/sorcerer can't be sure if they removed everything they need to.
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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2009, 10:52:15 AM »
I'd say just add a re-use delay to it.
Dispelling 1 person every 5~10 seconds wouldn't be so broken.

But imo, they should do this to almost all pre-renewal skills.
Yep, I'm looking at you Dazzler.  
(Gfist would probably be used as intended if it had a re-use delay as well)  
[And pretty much any non-aspd skill should be listed here too, but you get the point already]

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If not Re-Use delay.
Nerf dispell by %, that you'd have to earn.
- Level difference? Int? Luk?
- Hard Mdef Stat
- Equip/Cards giving XX% Chance to not get dispelled.

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I dunno if I want to see the skill just nerfed in general.

I mean, there's still some really annoying buffs that can't be dispelled.
EDP, FCP, Soul Linkers, Linked-Stalkers, GTB Users*, Food Items.
And also Strip status from your allies.
(*Speaking of, GR was technically nerfed.  They should nerf this a tiny bit too imo)

And finally, how many of the 3rd class skills does dispell work on anyway?  I know Magic Rod isn't working against Warlock skills, so I'm curious if dispell works on a majority of buffs.
I know Warlocks elemental Spheres.
And Rune's can't be dispelled.
How about GX Buffs/Poisons, SC Buffs/Paints, WM Songs, etc.?
If Dispell doesn't work on alot of these, what's the point of nerfing it really?
« Last Edit: July 14, 2009, 10:53:41 AM by Realus »

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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2009, 11:04:44 AM »
:omg:BAN DISPEL !!!:omg:

MUAHAHAHAHAHAA!!
 
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« Last Edit: July 14, 2009, 11:07:50 AM by Akio Otsuka »

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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2009, 11:15:39 AM »
If Dispel will be nerfed, I think Clearence need too.
'cause affect all players on screen and have a sucess rate of 80% at level 5.
 
Ok, AB is 3rd class, but the skill concept is from Sages.
And Sages don't have big ofensives spells, so I think Dispel is ok.
 
And sorry for my poor english. :D

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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2009, 12:09:12 PM »
yup it should be nerfed, its hard to pull all the buffs together then be gone just like that.

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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2009, 12:10:37 PM »
*kick the lks and ws out of this topic*
 
xD
 
No banhammer >: ) *dispel the lk*

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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2009, 02:29:24 PM »
i'm against a dispel nerf but i like to see some gears that have resistance to dispel.
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Re: Dispel Nerf
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2009, 02:51:45 PM »
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i'm against a dispel nerf but i like to see some gears that have resistance to dispel.
Headgear cards, armorcards, garment cards, shield cards or accessory cards that grant a certain % resistance vs dispell would be interesting.