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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2012, 09:06:37 PM »
Quote from: SexyMofo;1215325
Gaetan3, you can still use those stats, but you can completly forget about Fire Trap. Get a shield with Alice, a nice armor and you can go ET as a debuffer. The Masquerades won't work on the MVP's anymore, but Slightness Mind has a debuff that makes the mob takes 20% more damage for 10 sec and work on boss-type monsters also. Now, if you want to try something different you can try with a hybrid build or a ASS build. ?!

you can be a last resort healer, if your a vit/int/dex type, get a vitata clip and copy Highness Heal, and get either Storm gust (if have magic strings = maestro) if none get a offensive skill. haha.

oh yeah i forgot does Deadly Infect still work? and the Blood lust? on MVP's?
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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2012, 12:57:46 AM »
Really tanks to all for news i'll try it.

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2012, 11:02:38 AM »
I need some advice, i've had problems trying to get a decent build for my chaser, im already 150 and its my woe char, since the balance patch int is not as usefull as it was, so im wondering, should i totally drop int or still get some decent amount, mainly for cast time reduction and oblivion curse resist.


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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 12:38:32 PM »
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I need some advice, i've had problems trying to get a decent build for my chaser, im already 150 and its my woe char, since the balance patch int is not as usefull as it was, so im wondering, should i totally drop int or still get some decent amount, mainly for cast time reduction and oblivion curse resist.
Bingo
« Last Edit: February 23, 2012, 12:38:51 PM by leotheninja »


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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012, 04:31:54 PM »
My build is like this:
Dex>Agi=Vit>Int=Str>Luk
I don't like to post the numbers because I think that build is something very personal, but dex is useful for the masquerades/strip, agi for resistance to sleep/masquerades, vit is obvious, int for resistance and for more sp as well, str to stay less time on those tornados and white imprison and luk for resistance in everything, but is a very small value in my build.

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2012, 08:59:09 AM »
Quote from: Stigma;1218823
I need some advice, i've had problems trying to get a decent build for my chaser, im already 150 and its my woe char, since the balance patch int is not as usefull as it was, so im wondering, should i totally drop int or still get some decent amount, mainly for cast time reduction and oblivion curse resist.


I don't really think oblivion curse resist is that big of a deal, it's rarely an issue. However some INT is probably a good idea for cast time.

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2012, 09:49:24 AM »
The question is, how much will be decent, right now my build is like this:

110 vit total
100 int
2x str
100 dex
100 agi

Its a good around build for me, however it can use some improvement to become more WoE oriented.


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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2012, 10:04:27 AM »
Quote from: Stigma;1219651
The question is, how much will be decent, right now my build is like this:

110 vit total
100 int
2x str
100 dex
100 agi

Its a good around build for me, however it can use some improvement to become more WoE oriented.


Around 60ish INT I'd say? More strength is always good for masquerade resistance (through the increased weight).

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2012, 07:21:30 AM »
Quote from: Stigma;1219651
The question is, how much will be decent, right now my build is like this:

110 vit total
100 int
2x str
100 dex
100 agi

Its a good around build for me, however it can use some improvement to become more WoE oriented.

Wouldn't switching str and agi be more useful?
Str > Agi for masq resistance (so long as you don't go ow).  Or you could get equal portions of both...

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2012, 11:17:33 AM »
Agi> Str on Masquerade resistance, according to the new formula. Masquerades are affect by weight, so even with 70 Str and the Gym Pass, you'd still carry 7k only, and 3.5k in weight is nothing in WoE.

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2012, 04:40:56 PM »
Class: SC 99/1
Goal: Pure PvM build w/ AS to 150.
Funds: 100m
Gear:
Head: +9 RWH [1]
Middle: BFG [1]
Low: WCP
Armor: Exceeding Ninja Suit
Weapon: +7 OAB
Garment: +7 Immune Nid, +7 Heroic Backpack [1]
Foot: Variants
Accessory: Glove
  • and a Shinobi Sash
Current Stats:
Str: 1
Agi: 95
Vit: 1
Int: 49
Dex: 92
Luk: 1

Currently doing 6 of the eden 91-99 quests for the job exp.

This is the skill build I'm looking at for when I turn into an SC. I feel like my skills are all over the place. Aside from Reproduce 10, I just put skill points at random places.


I need some advice on what gear I need to be using to be able to solo or party effectively from 99 onwards. I'm almost always using the Wig for the Agi bonus. I know Rudolph does the same, but I don't know if it procs with traps. I do wish to be able to solo in Nogg 2 if I can. AB and endow slaves are not a problem.

As for stats,  
this is what I'm aiming to get. Advice would be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

« Last Edit: March 04, 2012, 11:02:38 PM by spornax »
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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2012, 12:41:55 PM »
Quote from: spornax;1222445
Class: SC 99/1
Goal: Pure PvM build w/ AS to 150.
Funds: 100m
Gear:
Head: +9 RWH [1]
Middle: BFG [1]
Low: WCP
Armor: Exceeding Ninja Suit
Weapon: +7 OAB
Garment: +7 Immune Nid, +7 Heroic Backpack [1]
Foot: Variants
Accessory: Glove
  • and a Shinobi Sash
Current Stats:
Str: 1
Agi: 95
Vit: 1
Int: 49
Dex: 92
Luk: 1

Currently doing 6 of the eden 91-99 quests for the job exp.

This is the skill build I'm looking at for when I turn into an SC. I feel like my skills are all over the place. Aside from Reproduce 10, I just put skill points at random places.


I need some advice on what gear I need to be using to be able to solo or party effectively from 99 onwards. I'm almost always using the Wig for the Agi bonus. I know Rudolph does the same, but I don't know if it procs with traps. I do wish to be able to solo in Nogg 2 if I can. AB and endow slaves are not a problem.

As for stats,  
this is what I'm aiming to get. Advice would be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


 For Nogg you'll need vit, during the time you're casting AS you'll get hit and will hurt like hell. All you really need to get through 100-125 is a OAB with a nice over, Porcellio card a teleport ring and around 100 dex. Also, there is no reason why to have 1 point in Dimensional Door. If you're no getting Bloody Lust, use that point somewhere else. I would be more concerned about the late leveling instead of the early ones, this is when starts to get complicated. Unfortunaly you won't be able to level effectively with Arrow Storm, you'll need something else also. And as for the build, you have way too much dex man... 120 is too much, the stats points could be used for something else. If you put 120 to ger more attack, with 100 and the rest in luk you'll get more attack than having 120 dex; if it was for Strips, is hard to get one nowdays, every medium/large guild walks with FCP 100% of the time, specially in invasions.

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2012, 02:23:48 AM »
had no idea where to post this, so please move this around accordingl
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tfkq0hll3Y[/ame]
the hell is that chaser using to 1-2 shot people? you can see well at like 1:25-1:35
ive seen this before from other kro vids, sometimes it looks like a fireish frost diver
i want to say its a 3rd class ninja skill, but i have no idea how their skills are like
« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 02:24:58 AM by Zeca »

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2012, 05:07:53 AM »
hey guys, i just wanna to know what best equips for leecher as a SC in magma_dun02 ?? :popcorn::?::dum:

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2012, 03:11:20 PM »
Chyie, you don't really need gears to leech. Just for leech I'd recomend copying Heal 10 or High Heal and go behind the killers, to avoid damage.