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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2012, 01:19:09 PM »
Well, in the pre Trans days, nothing can really kill a peco, short of being GFisted. Something like 9x int, 6x-7x dex and rest vit would do.
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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2012, 01:38:06 PM »
Exactly. It was so fun back then! If you DID get gfisted, usually you'd reflect kill the guy!

Why one time, someone gfisted me, he must have had low hp, low sp cause it took half my HP and he died :D
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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2012, 05:03:54 PM »
oh yeah this is pre-renewal meaning saders can kill sins and hunters with GC :D

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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2012, 08:38:10 PM »
bash, bash, stun!!! GC!!!!

I killed many wizards that way as well ;)
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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2012, 07:55:47 AM »
As a pure-shield sader back in iro chaos, I viewed the bash GC strat as scrubby.

Then again I was playing pure shield, so I was just jelly.

My version vs Wizzy: Shield Boomer, Shield Boomer, Shield Boomer, etc etc

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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2012, 08:18:29 AM »
How is it scrubby if it worked? :ssh:

I always wanted to try max shield boom in WoE, and never did!
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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2012, 08:33:55 AM »
Quote from: Blueness;1269365
How is it scrubby if it worked? :ssh:

I always wanted to try max shield boom in WoE, and never did!

I personally didn't like shield boom that much because you'd needed a ridiculously high upgraded/heavy weighing shield to do decent amount of damage qq.

If it was based on weapons, that'd be a different story :x

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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2012, 08:35:59 AM »
I more wanted it for cast stoppage on ED users (I think level 5 has a pretty good range?) and if I recall status weapons work too?
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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2012, 06:21:44 AM »
For shield and sac/battle, SB is your bread and butter and can do impressive damage to squishy classes. Because weapon damage does not apply, using a 4s Blade with damage or hit modifiers gives max damage, whereas with something like Bash you want to use a 3s Saber unless your str is through the roof.

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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2012, 11:00:16 PM »
GC/Sac time!

93 VIT
95 INT
32 DEX

Mostly for fast leveling in chiv/niff/castle/geffen GD, the saccing part will be mostly a secondary bonus until trans. 120 INT with gear!
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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2012, 12:04:16 AM »
Casting time is gonna be brutal. Are you sure you don't want to drop 10-20 vit for more dex? You might end up tanking better if it means killing the mobs faster.
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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2012, 07:50:22 AM »
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GC/Sac time!

93 VIT
95 INT
32 DEX

Mostly for fast leveling in chiv/niff/castle/geffen GD, the saccing part will be mostly a secondary bonus until trans. 120 INT with gear!

It won't be fast leveling with low Dex. 120 Int is good, but for a Wizard on a Peco, the Dex is way too low. The GC'er I used to play had 1 Vit (and gear), it was an amazing experience. If you level with GC mostly, you don't need a lot of Vit or Vit at all.

The higher your Dex, the less time you spend (waste) tanking your mob. It's also easier to focus on stat progression if you only have to take care of mainly two stats. I'd get 40~60 Vit at most, and that's due to the Sacrificing part.

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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2012, 08:48:45 AM »
Hmm, I'll have to see, it'll be leveling with a ME priest too, and I never had problems with that sort of DEX on a hybrid before. The VIT will go down depending on if I want to drag it into WoE or not!

If I decide I'm not really going to WoE and or I don't need Sac, I'll probably go with a 99 INT 60-75 DEX rest VIT pure GC/Heal build.
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Re: Build Help! Crusader Edition
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2012, 02:24:43 PM »
I go for about 81~84 vit. Items making it to 100 for stat immune or even just in the mid to high 90s is enough for me. Not to mention it can grant you more dex. And yes, my sader is GC/Sac.