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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2012, 05:49:07 PM »
2x AK carga.

And I'd do this for an MVP sura:
http://irowiki.org/~himeyasha/skill4/sur.html?10akakJkdAhFrBrdeDlfrAabdpjQtAdAGAkQrBfUcY

You don't need GoH for mvping. And if you need to clear mobs, combo tiger cannon + rampage blast will clear most things just fine. For stronger things like Nyd Guardians, it just means more tiger cannons.
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2012, 10:21:43 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2012, 10:53:56 PM »
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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2012, 04:27:05 PM »
I'm debating changing my baby acolyte into a monk/sura (mostly because first classers can't get the tier-4 Eden gears ¬¬ ), but I have no idea how to build my skillset aside from Sky Blow—and even then, it's iffy. Basically, I'm interested in combos but have no clue regarding sura combos or which ones are worth the skill points/maxing out.


Possible skillset (starting point): http://irowiki.org/~himeyasha/skill4/sur.html?10akakHxdAhFhOrdeDkqkA1lcjN2nGAjSabfScY

Current stats:

^ That LUK will likely be reassigned to STR and/or AGI.

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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2012, 10:32:08 AM »
I'm curious about what to put for my stats on a GoH build, mainly around int. I don't know if I should devote completely to GoH to the point of cutting int (and consequently gfist) out of it or not, granted yeah that would free up a LOT of stat points for str & dex, but still. It's gfist, I might need it for close range combat.

So far, with gfist still in it, I came up with 110 str, 100 dex, 97 vit, and 90 int. I'm not sure if 90 is enough to cut it for gfist or not, so I'm kinda torn in two directions on what to do with my stats here.
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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2012, 11:30:21 AM »
If you have a high level kvm mace then you can drop your int to around 60, 50 if you have a bryn. Otherwise, i wouldnt drop it below 70, possibly even 75.
Another thing, if you do have a high level kvm mace then you can lower your str for some luk or agi.

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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2012, 09:26:47 PM »
What are the best stats and equipment for mvping?

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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2012, 06:48:31 PM »
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morpheus' good for boosting your sp actually CMIIW


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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2012, 11:58:52 PM »
fisting wise, 120 str only if you own/have access to a meg

else its not worth it

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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2012, 10:49:14 PM »
what's a good build for a sura similar to a MS/Combo hybrid build?

i'm not a huge fan of pure combo monks, and it'd be neat to be able to tank some stronger monsters while using the neat Sura skills.

Here's a skill build I'm considering for my Sura: http://irowiki.org/~himeyasha/skill4/sur.html?10akakJkanhFhOrFeDksr1bdprA1dDGFjQ1fUcY
I'm not sure what to put the last 5 2nd job and the last 9 3rd job skills into--I kind of want PP: Revitalize, but I don't have enough skill points for that.

I'm thinking of the following build for 99 champ, and I'm wondering if it's the right direction:

~70 STR
~55 AGI
~70 VIT
~40 INT
~60 DEX
~1 LUK

It's a rough estimate; I'm not too familiar with this class. Maybe I should drop something for more INT? I'm not sure if I'll have enough SP. I wanna hit hard, but I also want versatility in the skills that I use.

Can people who know the class better weigh in? Thanks!
Oh and for the record this is probably gonna be strictly PVM. I might PVP a bit but nothign like high-stakes WoE.

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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2012, 02:23:04 AM »
Sky blow is better than Ride lightning after balancing, drop it off..
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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2012, 04:22:40 AM »
How much Agi would I need to make Sky Blow viable, though? I'm not really priortizing agi in this build (maybe 70~80 at most?), would it still be strong?

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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2012, 09:12:31 AM »
you can keep your agi the same as from when you were a combo champ (i'd say 80 max since you can get vip buffs and agi up) and once you turn sura start pumping either vit or raising str a little more. i'd say once you get out of juperos, to reset to TC build and move over to scarabs. with decent gears and a fire endow, you can pretty easily one shot them.

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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2012, 10:37:50 AM »
How much dex should I need to make the cast time of Gates of Hell, pretty decent for WOE.
is 70 or 80 base dex okay?

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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2012, 04:08:01 PM »
I need a good cookie-cutter MVP stat build for the new Sura I'm gonna make.
All I know for pure MVP builds is 120 str (I have access to megs), and I don't know what else.

I was thinking like 120 str, 100 int, 100 dex and the rest in vit. Maybe swap dex & vit. Idk.
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