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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2012, 05:49:48 PM »
you don't need very high dex at all. 7-8x dex with 3x luk does fine. 120 str, at least 95 base vit for stun immunity, and rest on int.

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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2012, 10:56:34 PM »
Can't get very much int with that setup, I was hoping for around 90-ish. Is the luk necessary?
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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2012, 12:02:39 AM »
luk is worth getting at low range since its not costly in points. you can get 86 base int (100 total int) with 70 dex and 33 luk. i wouldn't really bother getting higher int.
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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2012, 05:17:45 AM »
For practical use, you would only be having 1 Meg on, to equip a phen....

When I last calc'd it out, the stat points needed to get 120 str didn't increase damage much than all the points you could dump into int

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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2012, 05:47:32 AM »
without access to god items, then it's better to get same str/int or more int.

i very, very highly doubt you will get much from pumping more int than str if you have megs, practically. not only you benefit from the extra weight with more str to carry the meg, but you can do much more than fisting with megs such as KA, etc. (considering fist has been nerfed, competitive mvp'ing right now is only viable with a genetic, and the only mvp being competed are the ones that have 2m+ hp).

lower hp mvp will either be 1 shotted by fist with the 120 str build, or be way far to even try to be 1 shotted without lex by any build. int provides you with only, and only fist damage. while str gives you weight limit, fist damage, physical/range skill damage. plus i can guarantee, the damage difference from having more int will not be noticable. you only gain 150-350 sp depending on the gear that you have by adding a massive 20 int (massive because that's a lot of stat points considering your int is already in the high 8-9x), and the damage max-min caused by the weapon used.

oh, and yeah, i will always assume the use of only 1 meg for fisting.
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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2012, 12:37:50 PM »
Orleans robe?

Ok, one more question. Do most new suras level with skyblow now, cause last I checked lightning ride kinda sucked post balance.
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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2012, 12:53:21 PM »
sky blow until you can kill with tiger cannon

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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2012, 08:34:19 PM »
Well, I'm not sure about tiger cannon, but I was till getting decent damage out of rampage blaster at higher levels on my other sura last week. A little under 30k at level 3. Since I'm gonna make this one's sura skill build around KA I can afford to get RB 5 and stay away from RD & GoH, they take up too many points. Is convert still worth it in this kind of build?
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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2012, 01:06:55 PM »
How can I improve this char?

Class: WOE Sura, does some mvping
Goal:   max effectiveness in woe
Funds: not great, but after looking at the gear, can't say that I'm poor either
Gear:   
Head
+9 Cat Ear Beret, Arta Elven Ears, Robo Eyes, Pirate Dagger, Chocolate Donut, Well Chewed Pencil
Body
+7 Unfrozen Diabolus Robe, +4 Glorious Suit, +7 Cranial Valk, Variants, +9 Immune Backpack, +7 Immune Nidhoggur's Mant, Glorious Ring, Hiding Nile Rose
Weapons
+7 Carga Mace, +9 Valor Mace, +4 Glorious Morning Star
Stats: Str 100, Agi 78, Vit 95, Int 80, Dex 90

I'm at level 141/43, gonna stat to those stats and skill reset for GOH soon.   What should I improve in my gear?
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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2012, 01:28:05 PM »
+9-12 the kvm mace. Won't get any bigger improvement than that with the exception of megs.
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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2012, 06:42:17 PM »
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How can I improve this char?
 
Class: WOE Sura, does some mvping
Goal:    max effectiveness in woe
Funds: not great, but after looking at the gear, can't say that I'm poor either
Gear:    
Head
+9 Cat Ear Beret, Arta Elven Ears, Robo Eyes, Pirate Dagger, Chocolate Donut, Well Chewed Pencil
Body
+7 Unfrozen Diabolus Robe, +4 Glorious Suit, +7 Cranial Valk, Variants, +9 Immune Backpack, +7 Immune Nidhoggur's Mant, Glorious Ring, Hiding Nile Rose
Weapons
+7 Carga Mace, +9 Valor Mace, +4 Glorious Morning Star
Stats: Str 100, Agi 78, Vit 95, Int 80, Dex 90
 
I'm at level 141/43, gonna stat to those stats and skill reset for GOH soon. What should I improve in my gear?

I think I have some +7 weapon certs to help you with the Glorious Morning Star, if you get that to +9 you will see a big improvement.
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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2012, 02:18:43 AM »
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How can I improve this char?
 
Class: WOE Sura, does some mvping
Goal:    max effectiveness in woe
Funds: not great, but after looking at the gear, can't say that I'm poor either
Gear:    
Head
+9 Cat Ear Beret, Arta Elven Ears, Robo Eyes, Pirate Dagger, Chocolate Donut, Well Chewed Pencil
Body
+7 Unfrozen Diabolus Robe, +4 Glorious Suit, +7 Cranial Valk, Variants, +9 Immune Backpack, +7 Immune Nidhoggur's Mant, Glorious Ring, Hiding Nile Rose
Weapons
+7 Carga Mace, +9 Valor Mace, +4 Glorious Morning Star
Stats: Str 100, Agi 78, Vit 95, Int 80, Dex 90
 
I'm at level 141/43, gonna stat to those stats and skill reset for GOH soon. What should I improve in my gear?

 
I think I have some +7 weapon certs to help you with the Glorious Morning Star, if you get that to +9 you will see a big improvement.


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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2012, 01:44:23 AM »
Im making a Baby Sura.
I would like to know what would be a good build to go with considering it's a baby chara :I.
Class: Baby sura
Goal:   Be effective?
Funds: can range from bad to good
Gear:   can get what's needed
Stats: need orientation.

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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2012, 09:31:53 AM »
baby sura is only really good as a revit/etc slave if that, no zen among other things kills it

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Re: Build Help! Monk/Champion/Sura Post 14.1
« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2012, 01:50:48 PM »
i dont mind not having zen. i want a build pretending as if i had it, and i dont wanna be a slave :o