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The Assassin Thread - Renewal Edition
« on: January 28, 2012, 05:51:00 PM »
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14.1 brought many changes so updated threads with applicable build advice will help much more than the old threads.

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Class: Perma Champ
Goal: Farming Instance Orc Hero for Orc Sword
Funds: Just started
Gear: Total newbie with only eden gear
Stats: High agi, average str, vit, dex


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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2012, 05:25:53 AM »
Woo, first post.

Anyways, I'm a returning player from about 8 months ago, and I'm not too sure what the new builds are. I've read "cookie cutter" build but I have yet to actually see what this build is..

I hear people use RC/CRS to level and WoE? That's something new.

Class: GX
Level: 105/15
Goal: Leveling, fast leveling
Funds: Mmm, I guess 15m for now, but I'm really flexible, I can sell things.

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I do have a Nidhoggurs Shadow Garb on an alt, not too sure what to card it with yet though. Also have a Diligent Icepick.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2012, 05:27:38 AM by pepper »

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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2012, 01:13:05 PM »
Class:    Guillotine Cross
Level: 101/10(?; enough that I have RC/CRS at max level, I think)
Goal:    Making funds to buy gear
Funds:    ~100m
Gear:    Nothing really special; the only out of the ordinary things I have are BSB+shackles, and some fun hats like +7LFH, +7DroopingAlicel Stats:    High agi, above average str, dex; I'm expecting to use RC to get my moneyzzzzz.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2012, 01:14:13 PM by asdfuogh »

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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 01:28:08 PM »
Quote from: pepper;1207856
Woo, first post.

Anyways, I'm a returning player from about 8 months ago, and I'm not too sure what the new builds are. I've read "cookie cutter" build but I have yet to actually see what this build is..

I hear people use RC/CRS to level and WoE? That's something new.

Class: GX
Level: 105/15
Goal: Leveling, fast leveling
Funds: Mmm, I guess 15m for now, but I'm really flexible, I can sell things.

Everything else in that template:


I do have a Nidhoggurs Shadow Garb on an alt, not too sure what to card it with yet though. Also have a Diligent Icepick.


This is what you must do if you want to level fast.

First thing is first.

Reset that out, get 90 str 90 dex 70 vit 30 agi. When you level you want to get 100 total vit, 100+ base agi, then just pump str or luk, whatever.

Grab the Immune Nid, then try and +9 your Rideword hat.

Now, thanks to the RC buff you will be-able to level at magma2 without EDP and still do decent damage (I also suggest getting a +7 or higher Malicious Durga/Wild tooth blade). Also getting a soul enchanted(?) carded armor would help for SP also (the one which gives sp on each melee kill).

That said - I'd still suggest leveling with EDP if you can. It's so fast, why wouldn't you?

You can level all the way up till 126 @ Magma 2, then from 126 you go to Scarab 2 till 150. All with the same gears. Using relatively little to no pots.
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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 01:15:33 AM »
Thanks Laheen, just curious, would it be ok if I just left my rideword hat at +6 and left my durga as is? I don't really want to spend too much money on this gx(real $$). I'll do enough for the reset and grab the raydric card for the nid garb, but is there anything else I need to do in order to maintain sp?

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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 10:00:31 PM »
You should be fine with the nid+rideword hat. if anything just bring some light blues along just in case. and getting the hunterfly weapon will save you tons in the long run

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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2012, 09:45:14 PM »
Question on build:

I know that if you are going to play WOE, you have to kinda hybrid, relatively high dex, high vit, relatively high luk.

But then, if you plan to do PVP more than WOE,
is it advisable to specialize on crits or skills?

Given these two builds:

WOE
STR: 90
AGI: 110
VIT: 100
DEX: 70
LUK: 60

PVP:
STR: 100
AGI: 110
VIT: 100
DEX: 1
LUK: 80

My current plan is the WOE type build, but then my guildmates told me that it will be better if I go pure crit, because they say, fellow Gx's would just kill me on PVP, especially the crit ones.

Now I am kinda torned, I am enjoying both pvp and woe, do I have to choose if I go hybrid or pure crit?

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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 07:43:46 AM »
Go with WoE build and if you want to crit use abrasive. Meh Use your poision react for other sins, use back slide and dont get caugh if you think ther gonna kill you.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2012, 07:44:14 AM by Seanie »

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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 08:45:33 AM »
Little build i tossed together for all the normies.
 
Standard Rolling Cutter build with Meg access
120 str (megs)
90 agi
90 vit
10 int
80 dex
5 luk
 
the reason I don't put alot of luck into any of my builds is because there are alot of gear and cards that can provide crit w/o alot of luck (if for w/e reason you need to crit)...examples are such as soldier skeleton for weapons (adds crit), Ring of Flame lord (chance to proc fury status when attacking) and the fury status stays with you after you unequip the ROFL *thumbs up*, any crit boosting accessories, luck foods or crit foods (my favorite is the Buche De Noele item consumable).
 
+9 Rideword Hat (card doesn't matter)
Robo Eyes
Chewed Pencil
Earth Deleter carded armor or a Stone Curse armor (if your in dungeons with high matk i'd suggest using elemental armor)
Hunter Fly Carded weapons work best, if you use EDP then hp or sp will never be an issue.
Shields are no big deal unless your switching since pvm is usually always on katar defaults
Immune Nyddhogur Garmet
Variant shoes work best in myopinion for shoes
If you don't have meginjard access then i'd recommend the standard glorious ring and medal of honor you also sub out the medal or the ring for a ROFL for the raw 15 ATK.
 
You can use this regular build for pretty much anything (its not my build)
« Last Edit: February 08, 2012, 08:47:12 AM by sofakingcool »
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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2012, 06:50:57 PM »
Quote from: sofakingcool;1211557
Little build i tossed together for all the normies.
 
Standard Rolling Cutter build with Meg access
120 str (megs)
90 agi
90 vit
10 int
80 dex
5 luk
 
the reason I don't put alot of luck into any of my builds is because there are alot of gear and cards that can provide crit w/o alot of luck (if for w/e reason you need to crit)...examples are such as soldier skeleton for weapons (adds crit), Ring of Flame lord (chance to proc fury status when attacking) and the fury status stays with you after you unequip the ROFL *thumbs up*, any crit boosting accessories, luck foods or crit foods (my favorite is the Buche De Noele item consumable).
 
+9 Rideword Hat (card doesn't matter)
Robo Eyes
Chewed Pencil
Earth Deleter carded armor or a Stone Curse armor (if your in dungeons with high matk i'd suggest using elemental armor)
Hunter Fly Carded weapons work best, if you use EDP then hp or sp will never be an issue.
Shields are no big deal unless your switching since pvm is usually always on katar defaults
Immune Nyddhogur Garmet
Variant shoes work best in myopinion for shoes
If you don't have meginjard access then i'd recommend the standard glorious ring and medal of honor you also sub out the medal or the ring for a ROFL for the raw 15 ATK.
 
You can use this regular build for pretty much anything (its not my build)

Why 120 Str? 120 str bonus is only applied against bosses, am I right?
If I had my own meg, I would play a different class since Meg doesn't help GX much.
If a guild had meg, it would definitely go to someone else too.
 
WoE GX has pretty much set build now because of Rolling Cutter.
90+ str
90+ agi
100(bonus included) vit at least, can invest more if you want to.
?? int (depends on you. I got 40 ish just for some Oblivion protection & SP)
90 dex (needs hit.)
rest to Luk since it increases howling resistance, HIT, ATK, etc.
 
I think its just Dex which is kinda debatable depending on your gears and consumables you use, but really can't go out of that range.
 
Dex is a bit debatable, but I had 90 dex since I didn't want to not hit, turns out its even better choice since backpacks are in now.

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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2012, 09:31:23 PM »
Meg does not help GX much?what LoL?


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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2012, 09:55:41 PM »
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Meg does not help GX much?what LoL?

yea, u have one right? Go test with EDP.
:( I thought it doesn't.
if you can, tell me if I'm wrong after you test.
 
My thought was that Meg does a lot more on Sura than GX.
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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2012, 12:58:21 AM »
I dont have a meg but i do know double belted RC does a shitload of damage


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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2012, 01:48:05 AM »
the 120 str meg bonus is only applied to bosses. And I'd really only consider getting that for a Genetic or Sura that's built stricly for mvping.
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Re: Build Help! Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Post 14.1
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2012, 11:02:30 AM »
I was simply saying that because STR's ATK bonus part does not get amplified by EDP. thus making Sura a better class to have meg on. but I guess RC now is deadly AoE and prolly not a bad skill to have x2 megs on even tho the bonus you receive from it is only like 600% of additional str's bonuses.