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Offline paradigmshift

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2012, 07:14:44 PM »
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the hell is that chaser using to 1-2 shot people? you can see well at like 1:25-1:35
ive seen this before from other kro vids, sometimes it looks like a fireish frost diver
i want to say its a 3rd class ninja skill, but i have no idea how their skills are like

looks like this kagerou/oboro skill [FONT="]
[/FONT]Mucha Nage [FONT="]마구[/FONT][FONT="] 던지기[/FONT]
Max Level: 10
Pre-req: Makibishi Level 3
Description: Powered up version of [Throw Coins] skill. Throws up to  100,000 zeny to deal DEF piercing, random splash damage to targets in  range. Deals half damage to Boss monsters.
[Level 1] 10,000 Zeny / 5,000 ~ 10,000 Damage
[Level 2] 20,000 Zeny / 10,000 ~ 20,000 Damage
[Level 3] 30,000 Zeny / 15,000 ~ 30,000 Damage
[Level 4] 40,000 Zeny / 20,000 ~ 40,000 Damage
[Level 5] 50,000 Zeny / 25,000 ~ 50,000 Damage
[Level 6] 60,000 Zeny / 30,000 ~ 60,000 Damage
[Level 7] 70,000 Zeny / 35,000 ~ 70,000 Damage
[Level 8] 80,000 Zeny / 40,000 ~ 80,000 Damage
[Level 9] 90,000 Zeny / 45,000 ~ 90,000 Damage
[Level 10] 100,000 Zeny / 50,000 ~ 100,000 Damage

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2012, 07:39:32 PM »
Oh my my my... That information just motivated the living being outta me... para, you gave me hopes now~

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2012, 08:14:18 AM »
I wonder if we can increase the range of that skill with vultures eye/roguemasters bow

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2012, 04:15:29 AM »
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Chyie, you don't really need gears to leech. Just for leech I'd recomend copying Heal 10 or High Heal and go behind the killers, to avoid damage.

i want a any detail about equips that can be usable in magma_dun02 please:confused:

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2012, 03:33:05 PM »
Fire armor, Hodremlin shield, Nidd Garb, Variant Shoes, Fortune Sword/Ancient Dagger and a cute headgear. That's for leech, of course.

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2012, 03:30:51 PM »
Quote from: paradigmshift;1226200
Quote from: Zeca;1225957
the hell is that chaser using to 1-2 shot people? you can see well at like 1:25-1:35
ive seen this before from other kro vids, sometimes it looks like a fireish frost diver
i want to say its a 3rd class ninja skill, but i have no idea how their skills are like

looks like this kagerou/oboro skill [FONT="]
[/FONT]Mucha Nage [FONT="]마구[/FONT][FONT="] 던지기[/FONT]
Max Level: 10
Pre-req: Makibishi Level 3
Description: Powered up version of [Throw Coins] skill. Throws up to  100,000 zeny to deal DEF piercing, random splash damage to targets in  range. Deals half damage to Boss monsters.
[Level 1] 10,000 Zeny / 5,000 ~ 10,000 Damage
[Level 2] 20,000 Zeny / 10,000 ~ 20,000 Damage
[Level 3] 30,000 Zeny / 15,000 ~ 30,000 Damage
[Level 4] 40,000 Zeny / 20,000 ~ 40,000 Damage
[Level 5] 50,000 Zeny / 25,000 ~ 50,000 Damage
[Level 6] 60,000 Zeny / 30,000 ~ 60,000 Damage
[Level 7] 70,000 Zeny / 35,000 ~ 70,000 Damage
[Level 8] 80,000 Zeny / 40,000 ~ 80,000 Damage
[Level 9] 90,000 Zeny / 45,000 ~ 90,000 Damage
[Level 10] 100,000 Zeny / 50,000 ~ 100,000 Damage

well i guess were going to get a decent zeny sink soon

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2012, 06:26:10 PM »
Good point Easly... Since is also def piercing, we will "need" to swap weapons to increase damage, which that's gonna be a pain is the butt... Is not like we can just ctrl+click. So, what's gonna be, 10m/WoE when it comes over here and everyone making a Chaser?
 Also, what would be a good choice for weapon you guys think? I'm thinking either a +12 Scalpel or a +10~12 Red Twin. The problem with the Twin is that is Fire Element, so that's gonna be a pain in the butt too... Maybe a +14 Glorious Flamberge, that'd be nice since is 100% to medium and comes without elemental property.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2012, 06:29:08 PM by SexyMofo »

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2012, 11:06:33 AM »
Mucha Nage skill seems that it could be the bread and butter for chasers in PVP, I wonder if DEX or any other stat can increase the percentage of it inflicting 100k damage. Does this skill have any formula?? :(

@SexyMofo

I don't understand why you are saying " we will "need" to swap weapons to increase damage" ins't it fixed on 50,000 ~ 100,000 Damage?
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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2012, 12:51:34 PM »
No need to swap weapons, it isnt affected by attack or damage cards.  Thatd be insane if it even worked with archer skel cards.  Since chasers can keep they're ck's on its kind of perfect for chasers that want to kill.

When this hits iro I totally see major abuse potential with range hacks (if my earlier/above post is correct).
« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 12:52:04 PM by Rumm »

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2012, 02:30:41 PM »
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Mucha Nage skill seems that it could be the bread and butter for chasers in PVP, I wonder if DEX or any other stat can increase the percentage of it inflicting 100k damage. Does this skill have any formula?? :(

@SexyMofo

I don't understand why you are saying " we will "need" to swap weapons to increase damage" ins't it fixed on 50,000 ~ 100,000 Damage?


 Well, what I meant is: Since Combat Knife already ignores def, there's no reason to use it on a skill that ignores def. So to maximize the damage would be better to either use Glorious Flamberge or something alike, in my humble opinion. That considering is not fixed and that it does take cards in effects, which is just my speculation at the moment. But Rumm already knocked that one off real quick, explaining that doesn't take cards in effect, so just dis consider what I've said.  :)

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2012, 02:10:04 PM »
^
oh ok haha i got confused there but anyway, yeah it would be insane if cards  worked for this skill imagine curse,silent, freeze and other renewal cards that add status effects.

And seeing the Max HP of characters today majority of them doesn't even reach 50k max hp, I think this skill will be raped in the near future, waddya guys think?
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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2012, 02:28:30 PM »
I think itll require a kafra shop component to cast

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2012, 08:06:01 AM »
Just curious, but what kind of gears/cards are you looking at if you want to go with a Shadow Spell chaser? Obviously obtaining a high attackspeed is a must, but what to do when it comes to weapons and acessories? I was thinking two alchemy gloves as accessories, salamander carded garment, and perhaps an elemental sword (not a dagger, since we don't want double attack to proc, as it prevents skills from being autocast.)

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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2012, 03:16:52 PM »
Quote from: Easly;1227980
Quote from: paradigmshift;1226200
Quote from: Zeca;1225957
the hell is that chaser using to 1-2 shot people? you can see well at like 1:25-1:35
ive seen this before from other kro vids, sometimes it looks like a fireish frost diver
i want to say its a 3rd class ninja skill, but i have no idea how their skills are like

looks like this kagerou/oboro skill [FONT="]
[/FONT]Mucha Nage [FONT="]마구[/FONT][FONT="] 던지기[/FONT]
Max Level: 10
Pre-req: Makibishi Level 3
Description: Powered up version of [Throw Coins] skill. Throws up to  100,000 zeny to deal DEF piercing, random splash damage to targets in  range. Deals half damage to Boss monsters.
[Level 1] 10,000 Zeny / 5,000 ~ 10,000 Damage
[Level 2] 20,000 Zeny / 10,000 ~ 20,000 Damage
[Level 3] 30,000 Zeny / 15,000 ~ 30,000 Damage
[Level 4] 40,000 Zeny / 20,000 ~ 40,000 Damage
[Level 5] 50,000 Zeny / 25,000 ~ 50,000 Damage
[Level 6] 60,000 Zeny / 30,000 ~ 60,000 Damage
[Level 7] 70,000 Zeny / 35,000 ~ 70,000 Damage
[Level 8] 80,000 Zeny / 40,000 ~ 80,000 Damage
[Level 9] 90,000 Zeny / 45,000 ~ 90,000 Damage
[Level 10] 100,000 Zeny / 50,000 ~ 100,000 Damage

well i guess were going to get a decent zeny sink soon

What increases this skills damage?Str?


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Re: Build Help! Rogue/Stalker/Shadow Chaser Post 14.1
« Reply #44 on: March 26, 2012, 07:57:08 AM »
I adopt a level 99 rogue,
but i have no experience nor knowledge about rogue...
can someone suggest a nice pvm build for rebirth?
if can along with skill suggestion and equipment ; x ;