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Poring Egg
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4
Server: pRO Chaos
Class: Warlock
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I would just like to ask: At what upgrade level would the TSoD[w/ +7Skull Cap combo] need to be such that damage output would be similar/equal to that when a +7GSoD is used? I want a rough estimate of how well/poor it performs so I would know whether or not to go through much hassle just to get one.
Skull Caps are very much rare in our server [limited release during a Ragnarok Philippine Championship event, I believe] and thus its hard to acquire one. The sorcerer section of our forums isn't that active either, so no damage tests have been published yet. I guess you need some stats for some rough computation, so here's mine [w/o Upper HG and Weapon]: INT: 110 base + 10 job + 10 bless + 30 food + 2 equip= 162 DEX: 118 base + 7 job + 10 bless + 30 food + 15 equips/cards = 180 MATK equips: Entweihen Crothen [100 eqMATK] + Orleans's Necklace/Gloves combo [40 eqMATK + 2% MATK] |
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Stapo
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Posts: 583
Class: Warlock
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We really don't need your stats nor equipments since the assumption is the comparison of the 2 sets (TSOD+SC vs GSOD) will be done for the same character. That said, let's look at the basics:
TSOD: base MATK = 160 GSOD: base MATK = 210 The skull cap combo gives +10 MATK for every upgrade of TSOD, which means +5 TSOD = +0 GSOD (this is just base MATK discussion). So theoretically, +7 GSOD = +12 TSOD in terms of base MATK (just an estimation, I'm lazy doing real computations). That doesn't even include the other bonuses of GSOD (bonus %MATK to demi human, destruction bonus). So clearly, it would take high upgrades of the TSOD to reach GSOD levels, however this is for DEMI-HUMAN only. The only advantage of the TSOD is it's not restricted to demi-human, plus you can wear a shield. |
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Poring Egg
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4
Server: pRO Chaos
Class: Warlock
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+12? That high? LOL. I guess I should have never expected much from this combo set. The highest weapon upgrades our server currently have are at +11, majority as prizes from siege contests or ultra low-rate raffles and not to mention they are so few [more or less around 10 across the whole server].
Regarding the bonus %MATK to demi-humans and the destruction bonus, where would I apply it? statusMATK, eqMATK or both? |
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Trigger Happy
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Location: Thailand
Posts: 5,107
Server: tRO Retired
Class: Guillotine Cross
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Bonus +% matk applies to every part of matk. sMATK eqMATK and wMATK.
Although the damage is somewhat inferior, but the bonus of having a shield is tremendous.
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Angeling
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Location: Neo Domino, US
Posts: 2,528
Server: iRO Chaos
Guild: Afrikan 2 System
Class: Warlock
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Equipment MATK and Weapon MATK will add up between themselves unless it's implied otherwise...
GSoD damage will be higher thanks to the %MATK bonus, while TSoD Combo is good for the +MATK bonus...
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Deviling
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Posts: 1,563
Server: iRO Chaos
Guild: Animosity
Class: Sura
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Especially since you have a lot of +MATK gear already, the +%MATK from the GSoD would be more beneficial than the flat bonus of the TSoD
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Poporing
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Posts: 191
Server: pRO F2P
Class: Warlock
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instead of tsod skull cap combo, try using gsod and red pom hat. A red pom gives +5% matk by itself and every upgrade 6 or higher will add +% to human(not demi human). This is as stated in my server.
Say for example you have a +9 red pom hat of caster, you get +4% to human I guess the formula might be like this: (Equipment MATK + Weapon MATK) x 7%matk) x 4% to human) I dont know how accurate this formula is but it has been really reliable for me + %demi human goes between +matk and +%human Last edited by mlmf2008; 08-23-2012 at 12:46 AM. |
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Poring
![]() Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 36
Server: pRO Other
Class: Ranger
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I'm not sure about the exact numbers but +8 TSoD was a complete loss compared to +9 GSoD. But that's quite obvious.
With the demihuman bonus on GSoD, I think it's safe to say it should take at least +11 or 12 TSoD to be even comparable to a +7GSoD considering as well the overupgrade bonus/variance. But TSoD lets you wear a shield though, which is invaluable in WoE. |
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