Question: Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player?

Kraven · 05-08-2012, 01:30 AM

Orc Lord Card: 30% reflected melee
Shield Reflect: 40%
+10 Valk Manteau: 25%

Do all of these stack?

Xandr · 05-08-2012, 03:50 AM

some of those stack and some don't (i think)... there's also another reflect in shield spell, although it's just for RGs

Sora` · 05-08-2012, 06:57 AM

Those all deal damage back, but I know it's not in a single hit. I believe it was equip reflect all stacked into one damage dealt, and skill reflect into another.

Also equip reflect works a lot differently in regards to reductions and even works through things like Guard

Kraven · 05-08-2012, 07:45 AM

So Shield Spell 1=60% reflect along with another 40% from Reflect Damage
and +10 immune=25%+30% from Orc Hero and you are looking at 100% reflection with 1 portion and 55% from another so wouldn`t this set up make you invincible to any melee attack?

asdfuogh · 05-08-2012, 01:29 PM

No... you always get hit even if you reflect it. It's just that you happen to inflict just as much as they do on you.

Veemon · 05-08-2012, 08:53 PM

learn difference "reflect" vs "immune"... RO is not FF that reflect = immune to that attack then bounce the damage back to enemy...

reflect from SS1 RG basically similar to reflect shield, it's just reflect that stack with your reflect damage, because original reflect shield doesn't stack with it...

Zerozaku · 05-08-2012, 08:58 PM

it'd actually be reflect vs deflect

Kraven · 05-08-2012, 10:08 PM

So I just finished testing with my 130 RG.

Orc Lord Armor
Reflect Shield
SS1 reflect
+9 Valk manteau

and it reflects even more than the 100% damage you would receive...

Every Gfist I received, every GoH melee I would receive and crush strike would reflect around 100-110% back to the opponent. Pretty awsome if you ask me lol

And of course this is reflected in seperate hits.

jax5 · 05-09-2012, 07:00 PM

It is possible to reflect back more than 100% to player under certain circumstances.

For example: equipment reflect are based on damages before WoE and mental strength reductions.

Golden Fingers · 05-11-2012, 10:46 PM

didn't SS1 get nerfed heavily?

annaquin · 05-13-2012, 04:21 PM

Consume all your SP and use Moonie Dagger to reverse the stack formula.

Orc Lord = 30% alone
Sheep Hat + Valk Manteau = 30% stacked
Reflect Shield = 40% alone
All geared = 3 hit.

Veemon · 05-14-2012, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golden Fingers

didn't SS1 get nerfed heavily?

you're mistaken on lv 3 I guess...

Ruru · 05-14-2012, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veemon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golden Fingers

didn't SS1 get nerfed heavily?

you're mistaken on lv 3 I guess...

No, it did get nerfed. Pre-nerf it was reflect% = shield def/2 and now it is reflect% = shield def/10

foreignreign · 05-14-2012, 03:03 PM

Don't forget High Orc card!

Xandr · 05-15-2012, 06:13 AM

bison horn + thorny shield combo

05-08-2012, 01:30 AM	#1
Kraven Marin Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 383 Server: iRO Chaos Class: Ranger	Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player? Orc Lord Card: 30% reflected melee Shield Reflect: 40% +10 Valk Manteau: 25% Do all of these stack?

05-08-2012, 03:50 AM	#2
Xandr Stapo Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 583 Class: Warlock	Re: Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player? some of those stack and some don't (i think)... there's also another reflect in shield spell, although it's just for RGs Last edited by Xandr; 05-08-2012 at 03:52 AM.

05-08-2012, 06:57 AM	#3
Sora` Magmaring Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,307	Re: Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player? Those all deal damage back, but I know it's not in a single hit. I believe it was equip reflect all stacked into one damage dealt, and skill reflect into another. Also equip reflect works a lot differently in regards to reductions and even works through things like Guard

05-08-2012, 07:45 AM	#4
Kraven Marin Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 383 Server: iRO Chaos Class: Ranger	Re: Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player? So Shield Spell 1=60% reflect along with another 40% from Reflect Damage and +10 immune=25%+30% from Orc Hero and you are looking at 100% reflection with 1 portion and 55% from another so wouldn`t this set up make you invincible to any melee attack?

05-08-2012, 01:29 PM	#5
asdfuogh Stapo Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 594 Server: iRO Chaos Guild: Looking for one! Class: Ranger	Re: Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player? No... you always get hit even if you reflect it. It's just that you happen to inflict just as much as they do on you.

05-08-2012, 08:53 PM	#6
Veemon Deviling Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Piggyback ride Shiro Posts: 1,728 Server: idRO Thor Guild: Valkyria Class: Arch Bishop	Re: Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player? learn difference "reflect" vs "immune"... RO is not FF that reflect = immune to that attack then bounce the damage back to enemy... reflect from SS1 RG basically similar to reflect shield, it's just reflect that stack with your reflect damage, because original reflect shield doesn't stack with it... __________________ http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/e...f/ziggys-1.png Courtesy Image from Grace/ceinchase. Vee-Valkyrie , Ridley-Classic Main (idRO Thor/iRO Valkyrie, 150/50) :XV-Tao, all types AB? Last edited by Veemon; 05-08-2012 at 09:01 PM.

05-08-2012, 08:58 PM	#7
Zerozaku ㅋㅋㅋ Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 837 Server: iRO Chaos Class: Warlock	Re: Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player? it'd actually be reflect vs deflect __________________ Thanks sara

05-08-2012, 10:08 PM	#8
Kraven Marin Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 383 Server: iRO Chaos Class: Ranger	Re: Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player? So I just finished testing with my 130 RG. Orc Lord Armor Reflect Shield SS1 reflect +9 Valk manteau and it reflects even more than the 100% damage you would receive... Every Gfist I received, every GoH melee I would receive and crush strike would reflect around 100-110% back to the opponent. Pretty awsome if you ask me lol And of course this is reflected in seperate hits. Last edited by Kraven; 05-08-2012 at 11:14 PM.

05-09-2012, 07:00 PM	#9
jax5 Marin Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 437	Re: Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player? It is possible to reflect back more than 100% to player under certain circumstances. For example: equipment reflect are based on damages before WoE and mental strength reductions.

05-11-2012, 10:46 PM	#10
Golden Fingers Arc Angeling Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NZ Posts: 4,318 Server: iRO Chaos Guild: retired	Re: Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player? didn't SS1 get nerfed heavily? __________________ IGN: Hrothmund, Priest'o'Matic

05-13-2012, 04:21 PM	#11
annaquin Magmaring Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 1,397 Server: kRO Retired Class: Assassin Cross	Re: Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player? Consume all your SP and use Moonie Dagger to reverse the stack formula. Orc Lord = 30% alone Sheep Hat + Valk Manteau = 30% stacked Reflect Shield = 40% alone All geared = 3 hit.

05-14-2012, 03:03 PM	#14
foreignreign Poring Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 31 Server: iRO Chaos Class: Wizard	Re: Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player? Don't forget High Orc card!

05-15-2012, 06:13 AM	#15
Xandr Stapo Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 583 Class: Warlock	Re: Is it possible to reflect 100% damage back to a player? bison horn + thorny shield combo

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