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Old 05-18-2010, 02:33 AM   #3941
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again?! so what's good about GX at this point, they've taken everything already . gah!

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Old 05-18-2010, 04:59 AM   #3942
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thief cards combo + BG set + agi food + agi\bless + adrenalin rush or bers potion = 193 aspd. I do not see any problem in reeching 193 aspd.
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Old 05-18-2010, 08:02 AM   #3943
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don't mind the weapon, and crits would be done with abrasive
We don't have abrasive on bRO official server.

Does GX really need 193 aspd all time? 'cause i have on musketeer hat, and maybe be usefull to get 193.
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Old 05-18-2010, 05:37 PM   #3944
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thief cards combo + BG set + agi food + agi\bless + adrenalin rush or bers potion = 193 aspd. I do not see any problem in reeching 193 aspd.

Adre rush only applies for Mace/Axe weapons. Unless it's Adv Adre Rush. But you there won't be a Mechanic/Blacksmith with you all the time. And are Assassins allowed to use Berserk potions?

Btw, forgot to count investing a lot of points in Agi and Dex in result having less points for other stats. 193 aspd is a no go for me.
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Old 05-18-2010, 07:42 PM   #3945
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With berserk potion pitcher from a linked alchemist, yes, they alowed to use berserk. But again they will not have a pet alchemist all the time unles is someone with double account......
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Old 05-18-2010, 08:08 PM   #3946
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Good day guys, I'm playing pRO, planning to pursue on GX, could someone provide answers/ideas on the concerns below.

1. What weapon type would be the best for GXs?
2. What would be the alternative for icepick for emperium breaking? (quaddoppel+?)
3. ASPD?
4. Previously, the main skill is sonic blow, what would it be after renewal?


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Old 05-18-2010, 10:22 PM   #3947
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according to what I've read, 193 would be the best damage imput and the less reduced also. so that's why I was interested in that build. but since they changed the aspd formula yet again, I just don't know what to do.
I was hoping not to depend much on other characters besides common buffs (agi/bless/and relatively obtainable foods)
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Old 05-18-2010, 11:44 PM   #3948
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Going from 190 aspd to 193 aspd is an increase of about 50% damage (more if your using flamelord ring) so its definitely worth doing almost regardless of what gear you sacrifice.

In terms of emp breaking you just want 193 aspd. Its plant type so it doesnt matter what weapon you use, best emp breaker will probably be minstrel with zerk guitar since they will have 193aspd and range.
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Old 05-19-2010, 03:02 AM   #3949
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in pRO emp has a high defense and it's property is holy. Breakers tend to use +10 Main Gauche of Berserk Quadruple and an Icepick, it takes 8-10 secs to break it.
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:15 AM   #3950
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^pRO does not have Renewal.
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:17 AM   #3951
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8 or 10 sec to break an emp as sin X that pretty much a non specialized emp breaker and without Battle Chant I presume. Because a Stargladiator can break an emp in 2sec with just battle chant and thief combo set in prenewal.

__________Diff in % ______ 185____190___195
aspd 185 = 3.33 ATK/sec 100% 66% 46%
aspd 190 = 5.00 ATK/sec 151% 100% 70%
aspd 193 = 7.14 ATK/sec 216% 127% 100%
aspd 187 = 3.84 ATK/sec
aspd 188 = 4.16 ATK/sec
aspd 189 = 4.54 ATK/sec


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PecoPeco Hair Band
Thief Combo

However Gravity as we all know are making thing the most retard way possible, since the introduction of Atroce Card

Dual Dagger can break emp in 2 sec without been AGI at all ( all it take is reflect dmg while crawling to the emp, wait by potting and once aspd kick in, EPD cursed pot dual equip break, thanks bye )

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Old 05-19-2010, 11:33 AM   #3952
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nobody noticed the triple CI over 180 aspd with new aspd formula? it's work!
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:01 PM   #3953
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if i go the crit way in renewal, what would be the most advisable weapon for me damage-wise?
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:36 PM   #3954
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if i go the crit way in renewal, what would be the most advisable weapon for me damage-wise?
Overupgraded dulga or infiltrator(1).
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:13 PM   #3955
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^pRO does not have Renewal.

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8 or 10 sec to break an emp as sin X that pretty much a non specialized emp breaker and without Battle Chant I presume. Because a Stargladiator can break an emp in 2sec with just battle chant and thief combo set in prenewal.

__________Diff in % ______ 185____190___195
aspd 185 = 3.33 ATK/sec 100% 66% 46%
aspd 190 = 5.00 ATK/sec 151% 100% 70%
aspd 193 = 7.14 ATK/sec 216% 127% 100%
aspd 187 = 3.84 ATK/sec
aspd 188 = 4.16 ATK/sec
aspd 189 = 4.54 ATK/sec


Best Aspd gear/card
PecoPeco Hair Band
Thief Combo

However Gravity as we all know are making thing the most retard way possible, since the introduction of Atroce Card

Dual Dagger can break emp in 2 sec without been AGI at all ( all it take is reflect dmg while crawling to the emp, wait by potting and once aspd kick in, EPD cursed pot dual equip break, thanks bye )

just because pRO and RO at your country have different emp attributes, as i've said emp in pRO has high def.

anyway, Is the aspd penalty of using dual dagger same in renewal?
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:41 PM   #3956
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They've changed the current renewal aspd. Now, higher agi gives lower aspd penalty, including dual dagger. Also, you've basically answered your question yourself: since pRO's emp has high def, you basically need to have an icepick with you + 2nd dagger of your choice. The 2nd dagger can either be quad doppel or a high+ scalpel with +% damage cards. Lastly, since pRO has different emp stats, wouldn't it be best to ask the pRO forums this question instead.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:15 PM   #3957
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just because pRO and RO at your country have different emp attributes, as i've said emp in pRO has high def.

anyway, Is the aspd penalty of using dual dagger same in renewal?
The plant-like Emperium its a Post Renewal Feature (only on KRO since only they have Renewal) so its pointless to compare it with the previous emperium since its a whole new thing.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:33 PM   #3958
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sorry guys but i'm not after the emp thing, as i've listed before are my concerns.

I have dilemma wether i have to dispose my quad doppel or not due to renewal changes.

So if a GX would have a high agi u could reach 193 aspd with dual dag?

what would be better? normal atk GX(dps basis+poison) or skill spammer GX?
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sorry guys but i'm not after the emp thing, as i've listed before are my concerns.

I have dilemma wether i have to dispose my quad doppel or not due to renewal changes.

So if a GX would have a high agi u could reach 193 aspd with dual dag?

what would be better? normal atk GX(dps basis+poison) or skill spammer GX?
I have the same question~ I'm a High Thief and I'm originally planning to make a pure SB SinX, then as I've heard that renewal is coming... I decided to change my approach...

Lvl 59/42
Str 68
Dex 32
the rest is 1~

is it too late to go for the edp+poison+aspdATK+Crit?
or should i go for the SKILL SPAM pure STR GX?

This concern all those who have a lvl99 SB type SinX on my server~

*if only there is a chance for a stat reset =P
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:44 PM   #3960
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^ Not until Gravity would finalize all classes, it is still undetermined if what path we are going to take (either skill spam or aspd type) as GX still needs some revisions to align with other classes.
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