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Old 10-07-2009, 07:48 PM   #1001
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So why is everyone complaining that all of the females have bikinis when only 5 of the 12 have such a thing? 2 of which have always had such things. Ranger and Mechanic have shorts. Warlock and Sura have pants. The rest more or less have variations of skirts, including Sorcerer who shows no signs at all have any sort of bikini (that black spec thing is just part of the semi-translucent effect of their skirt).

About the perversion, people should quit blaming the Japanese for it (and listening to that guy that has no proof to back up what he says). They are no more perverse in their thoughts than any other group of human beings on this planet. Japanese culture is just more accepting of something that happens naturally and combined with their obsession with anonymity, it comes out far more often. People here are just as perverse, as can be seen in alot of the comments about the sprites, especially the whole comment about the AB's "flap" flying up. How is that any different from the priest sprite with the underwear exposed in the death position? Not to mention how it used to white panties which many people loved (including Koreans). You should also look more into Western games and movies and see how females are portrayed there. Its hardly a Japanese thing. This is also hardly a male fan service either as many females like such designs as well.

Most of this just seems to be fanboy/girlism going off because the sprites for the next succession of their favorite jobs aren't exactly what they want them to be. Which is understandable but so much of it is just ignoring what the job's about and getting angry over the designers for desiring to make them look more what they're about.

Just my 5 zeny on things.

On the topic of how good the sprites look though, I showed them to a friend who doesn't play RO. Although he only commented on the male ones, he liked all of them except the GX one which he felt was over done. This is from someone that is pretty picky about looks and often rants about how bad outfits in games can look at that.
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:12 PM   #1002
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And who are you to tell the people here to stop listening or... should I say ignore my post? It's not my fault that some people, here, share a common notion that the skimpiness an sudden bikini showdown of some classes has to change.

It's as if your friend represents everybody. My point is to meet halfway. Meaning, get the approval of most people, if not all. If it's ok for you that your character looks skimpy, the rest doesn't share the same taste as you BUT... it will not hurt you if they covered the front of the some of the sprites with a skirt.

Don't even use the same argument against me.
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:20 AM   #1003
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About the perversion, people should quit blaming the Japanese for it (and listening to that guy that has no proof to back up what he says). They are no more perverse in their thoughts than any other group of human beings on this planet.
I could post evidence to the contrary, but that would be a fast way to ban myself
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:10 AM   #1004
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now since my last post has not been deleted so far I'm gonna ask once more.

has there ever been a statement from gravity or any renewal developer about why the hell they threw away those two first third class sprites (GX and RK) ?? if there's nothing like this then I guess I'm right with what I said ...
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Old 10-08-2009, 09:02 AM   #1005
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It was just that overwhelmingly negative opinion about those classes which is why it changed.

I agree with Soukosa that Japanese are just more open about skanky outfits in general, But since it's been like 80% negative opinion on the sprites from the jRO fanbase that I've seen, I'm hoping that they'll adjust the "problem" sprites.

Personally, I think for F Ranger, Mechanic, Arch Bishop, Royal Guard, Wanderer, Sura sprites are fine.
It's just a problem with Genetics, Rune Knight, and the seethroughness of Sorcerers.
Guillotine Fist, Shadow Chaser I personally don't like but it's more an issue of opinion for those. Shadow Chaser I'd be okay with had the leg not been so awkward.
Warlock just doesn't look like a wiz class but the sprite is nice.

Male Sprites in general don't have the same problem. Most classes I personally can live with playing. Some are slightly awkward but for the most part okay.
M Sorcerer being the slightly awkward one due to the bulkiness.

1 general concept that I have problems with are the neon coloring of gems on Rune Knight for both genders.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:10 AM   #1006
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I can't believe that this is an official death knight sprite. oO The colours of her clothes are too dark and bright for Ro palette, and hmmm... it has a great style difference with all other Ro sprites including 3d jobs.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:28 PM   #1007
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Where on earth did you found that?
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:21 PM   #1008
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^Female Death Knight blog

http://ro-projectrevolution.blogspot...ht-female.html
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:48 AM   #1009
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mmmmmm, well now that third jobs are done(well, other then balancing and pets), we might see them do something with expanded classes.
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:18 AM   #1010
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mmmmmm, well now that third jobs are done(well, other then balancing and pets), we might see them do something with expanded classes.
I`m guessing that Expanded jobs will be touched a bit later. Let`s say in the middle of December or even in next year`s January.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:29 AM   #1011
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I want this to be the standing pose for females
It adds sth to the whole. Really, I'd swallow the red things on the skirt in exchange.
Isn't that one of the frames when she's walking?

Also...I remember when trans were coming out and most people hated the sprites for those... I remember the outrage from then. Is this so different than before?
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:06 PM   #1012
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Also...I remember when trans were coming out and most people hated the sprites for those... I remember the outrage from then. Is this so different than before?
Not really. People will always bitch about a character not looking how they themselves envision it.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:47 AM   #1013
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Also...I remember when trans were coming out and most people hated the sprites for those... I remember the outrage from then. Is this so different than before?
Not really. People will always bitch about a character not looking how they themselves envision it.
That has always been and will always be true. I personally don't have a problem with any of the female sprites as far as the whole their outfits are too skimpy thing is concerned.
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:54 PM   #1014
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For you viewing pleasures, the character arts for Death Knights and Shamans.
Female Shaman



Male Shaman

Male Death Knight (These guys would have been friggen sexy for GX)

Female Death Knight (Tee Hee Beekeenee)
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Old 10-24-2009, 05:14 PM   #1015
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Really, who drew that?
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:38 AM   #1016
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those are from a DS game
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Old 10-25-2009, 04:01 PM   #1017
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Yea, there from RO DS.
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Old 10-25-2009, 04:49 PM   #1018
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The male shaman looks very very gay, while the DK looks stuffed.

The female DK looks very very sexy, and the shaman looks old.


Overall, the DKs look more like monsters than actual RO chars lol.

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Old 10-25-2009, 07:44 PM   #1019
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Overall, the DKs look more like monsters than actual RO chars lol.
on RO DS a male DK is the bad guy.
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:06 PM   #1020
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Not an excuse. The anime adaptation had (I think) Dark Lord and a Wizard as it's main antagonists, the Wizard looked pretty human and cool at the same time.

I said it because they remind me of Succubus, lol.

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