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Old 08-31-2009, 05:00 PM   #1
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Default Very Very Strong Weapons

I realize very very strong (VVS) weapons are more expensive then normal elemental weapons, and I know they do 20-30 damage when they would normally miss. Does the VVS status actually make the weapon more powerful though? Is there anything I'm missing?
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:59 PM   #2
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Nope that's it.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:02 PM   #3
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They also do the same extra damage when they hit as well. So a +5 vvs fire claymore (say) is about the same as a +7 fire claymore in terms of damage. (For single hits anyway, not sure hot it applies with skills.)

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Old 09-01-2009, 05:42 AM   #4
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Thats it.

Other thing to consider though is VVS weapons (rather than norm forged ones) tend to be made by ranked forgers, and they get a damage bonus for being in the top 10 rank as well.
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Old 09-01-2009, 06:00 AM   #5
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One vs is just 5 dmg extra which wont get multiplied by element. In no way is it cost effective, you pay double for a tiny increase cause forging success gets halfed on a vvs weapon.
Top 10 forgers just make those useless vvs stuff cause they get 10 points for the list and also when someone buys 1 weapon they make 1m+ instead of 500k+ profit on it(maybe more depending on how greedy they are on iro). Often they stop making normal weapons then cause their storage is full already with vvs stuff they made for points so you have no choice than to buy the expensive vvs.

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Old 09-01-2009, 07:51 AM   #6
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VVS can be the difference between needing a +7 and a +9 weapon, its a pretty big difference really. If its the difference between one shot and two shot, thats a huge difference.

It may not be affected by element, but it does benefit from size/race/element cards.
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Old 09-01-2009, 03:08 PM   #7
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How exactly are you going to put those cards in forged equip? Or are you talking about things like Alice doll, Magmaring card, Gloom under the Night card etc.
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I find the only really useful part of VS (or more) weapons is never-miss Stun Bash, but that's kind of grown out of style since everything in game became a tanking class.
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Old 09-01-2009, 04:21 PM   #9
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How exactly are you going to put those cards in forged equip? Or are you talking about things like Alice doll, Magmaring card, Gloom under the Night card etc.
You can also do it with dual-wielding (although it's not that easy to switch your main weap when dual wielding, so ele daggers probably wouldn't be that useful compared to endow).
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I'm speaking from an assassins point of view with an offhand weapon, although those other things could count too i guess.

I think the main point for VVS though is to hit things with abnormally high flee, not for damage but for things like bash or snatch. Personally I just endow everything and havent used a forged weapon in years.
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