RK: RK vs RG Discussion

I just posted this because I remember saying that was not very spamable ... I agree with what the staff already said about Rg / Rk ... RK I think deserves further improvements in their skills(including Concentration was Nerf) and not to lower the power of RGs
but just to remember ... to build a Storm Blast, with Magic Strings ... you can enter a pre-cast and be the hero of your guild with these 20 runes ... + Some Yggs
Just my point of view
You can see in 3:26 to 3: 33 and 6 46 to 6 50 what Rk can do against opponents
AND ... What time RK need to make 20 storm blasts ... ? less than 10 seconds or less than 20 ? Shura need the same time to reuse Rampage
and for me ... the damage of 8/10 SB can be > 1 RB in the amount of time

@Red Getleman:
*claps* good man, reading that you will leave the discussion is the best thing you could have posted, sincerely your rants and bad informed posts were doing 0% contribution to the debate. I would take my time to reply your rants but seriously since you cry each time someone disagrees with your posts I think it is better let you be, just 3 things I want to point out...

1- Yes I have seen woe videos and I only see RKs breathing on the back lines like bad wizzards until a shadow chaser strips them, then they either die or B-wing back to get ferus, and as a LK player I dont like that, I don't see any Storm Blast heros one shooting masses as you guys dream or IB+BB comboers figthing after they get the dragon stripped, so yeah I guess with your poor reading you could get to understand what I mean.

2- One minute and 30 seconds I am very well aware how long is that, a guillotine cross does a lot of things during the same time lapse with an edp, I am sure an RG that can't be statused, has 170 more weapon attack and +65% more hp can do a lot of things timming it correctly, and that is one, wonder if we were talking about a guild with 3 or maybe 5.

3- English is not my main language either and you don't see me posting stuff like that, instead of ranting and then calling names to a group of posters on a heated debate and then complaining becasue they don't agreee with your lacking arguments you should try getting better reading and/or writing lessons.

@Jun:
Farming the 30+ (keep in mind it can fail) Elder Branch, Light Particle, Rune Ore, Tangled Chains and Dragon Canine takes time too you know? if that is taken into account then those 8 SBs will be way slower than 10 seconds.

@Voivre:
Inspiration gives ~300 atk at 127. At 150 it will give at least ~320 attack and ~22 to all stats. I don't know where you are getting 170 from.

From here:

Originally Posted by Frost

[Level 1] : all stats +8, +50 atk, +? hp, Duration 30 s
[Level 2] : all stats +9, +80 atk, +? hp, Duration 45 s
[Level 3] : all stats +10, +110 atk, +? hp, Duration 60 s
[Level 4] : all stats +11, +140 atk, +? hp, Duration 75 s
[Level 5] : all stats +12, +170 atk, +? hp, Duration 90 s

That's the OLD inspiration. =P

It was posted on the "updated" compilation don't blame me xD

But if you've read the notes, the numbers are possibly outdated. I hope someone figures out the new numbers though. :/

can that bonus attack be amplified with 20% cards?

Isn't the stat bonus from inspiration bugged though? Like, it sets the stat bonuses to +x, instead of adds x stats?

no it is not.

ooohhh damn i like that +700 atk and +20~40 stats

(staring right at you RG fanboys)

why the hell do we need RK's anyway..

† in loving memory of my Lord Knight......we had fun...but all good good things must come to an end †

/sarcasm

Inspiration is still very skill build limiting so I dont see the point in complaining about its potency.

I mean its not like these types of buffs are unobtainable for other classes. Actually RG's are the exact class that could give you said buffs with Battlechant.

Originally Posted by Jatzu

Inspiration is still very skill build limiting so I dont see the point in complaining about its potency.

I mean its not like these types of buffs are unobtainable for other classes. Actually RG's are the exact class that could give you said buffs with Battlechant.

Yep, I really don't complain about Inspiration, you need to sacrifice a lot of things in order to UNLOCK it, and it has an incredible cooldown, (also the EXP lose)

I think Inspiration is OK right now, a really good skill, but you can't go spamming it lol, and you need to think when use it, also with a limited time, and then a huge cooldown

Any new videos showing the superiority of RGs to RK? I have the feeling that some RG skills are only great on paper.

When people try to make that video comes Sura and RB's them! so it's impossible...

Originally Posted by quima21

Any new videos showing the superiority of RGs to RK? I have the feeling that some RG skills are only great on paper.

They are. One of the more complained about skills, Overbrand, has a really weird and somewhat unreliable AOE for all 3 hits to take effect.

Start reading here to see what I mean.

Also only has a 1-cell casting range.

You'd only be hitting one hit most of the time, and it has a 2s delay.

PPA, although beefy, has a 1s delay and a 5s reuse.

Originally Posted by Silver Infinity

They are. One of the more complained about skills, Overbrand, has a really weird and somewhat unreliable AOE for all 3 hits to take effect.

Start reading here to see what I mean.

Also only has a 1-cell casting range.

You'd only be hitting one hit most of the time, and it has a 2s delay.

PPA, although beefy, has a 1s delay and a 5s reuse.

BB uses gutterlines to be effective, IB does full dmg only to those who are in the immediate adjacent cell (3x3).

OB always does to 2 hits in a 3X4 area next to the RG, so u think that's not reliable?

PPA is not beefy, it's cheesy even with 1sec delay and 5sec reuse.
~20% chance to break stuffs, never miss(100%crit), can easily achieve 3150% dmg with 100 total agi (5250% with 200 agi FYI). it's da best complimentary range skill for those who want to go pure MR build(VIT,AGI,STR) RGs.

Skills that Crit CAN MISS (FAS/SS and PPA). They don't actually Crit. They only get a 1.4x mod at the end. They recieve no bonus from +crit damage cards.

Originally Posted by Clogon

Skills that Crit CAN MISS (FAS/SS and PPA). They don't actually Crit. They only get a 1.4x mod at the end. They recieve no bonus from +crit damage cards.

tnx for pointing that out.

so PPA does not have the bonus +100 crit? im pretty sure SSlash have +50 crit though.

tnx.

Originally Posted by Clogon

Skills that Crit CAN MISS (FAS/SS and PPA). They don't actually Crit. They only get a 1.4x mod at the end. They recieve no bonus from +crit damage cards.

sounds like a manual formula. Like Asura has an own formula with calculating Atk, because 2x Atk from BC didn't work.
So skills with Crit have a [1 + Luk*0.3 + eqCrit]% chance to do increased damage. Bypassing CritShield ?