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Old 10-16-2010, 02:45 PM   #1
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Default Re: The "help me with my build" thread, Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Edit

My GX will be high agi pvm/mvp crit build, my GX would get counter slash as primary aoe and i need peoples opinions about two things:

1) I have the choice of either getting Weapon Blocking 5 (to trigger counter slash) and Poisoning weapon 1 or take points away from Weapon blocking and put it to poisoning weapon.
I'm not sure if 60 seconds duration is enough for poisoning weapon and if that would waste too many new-poison bottles.

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Weapon blocking chance : 10% + (2% * Skill Level), so 12% (level 1) to 20% (level 5)
Poisoning weapon rate to put poison on enemy when attacking : 2% + (2% * Skill Level), so 4% (at level 1) to 12% (level 5)
Poisoning weapon duration: 60s * Skill Level, so 60s at level 1 to 300s at level 5

For example i could also get both skills at level 3, which would be 16% blocking rate and 8% chance to cause new poison status.
Or would 12% weapon blocking trigger rate be enough so i could take 300 seconds weapon poisoning with 12% chance to cause new poison status when attacking?


2)Venom splasher got kinda buffed with renewal and i was thinking about getting it as secondary aoe and as just-for-fun skill as non-cookie-cutter build.
Now i have two possibilities:
a)Soul destroyer 10, grimtooth 5, venom dust 4
b)Venom dust 5, Poison react 5, Venom Splasher 10
Would you ditch Soul Destroyer 10 and Grimtooth 5 for Venom Dust 5, Poison react 5 and Venom Splasher 10?

As info for renewal skill changes:
SD 10 in renewal : 800%atk+800%matk, can not miss (my GX would deal 8~9k damage with SD10 and elemental advantage i guess)
Venom Splasher 10 in renewal : 1250% damage, can not miss, can be used when enemy has still full hp and does not require poison status, i think its affected by % cards in renewal

EDIT : nvm, because of that venom splasher still sucks, stupid damage splitting *sigh*.

What do you think would be best?

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Old 10-16-2010, 07:19 PM   #2
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Hmm... For making a Crit GX, how high would be a good amount for INT and VIT? I'm planning on getting max AGI, but I'm not really sure of that either. Any opinions?
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Old 10-17-2010, 09:11 PM   #3
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What's a good build for Critical Assassin?
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Old 10-19-2010, 05:30 PM   #4
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@Atum: assuming you never, ever will step in a pvp room or woe castle with that GX what poisons would you actually use for pvm and mvp? Some gx poisons have no effect on monsters(mushroom only makes them happy, monsters don't have weapons for you to take away their effects, monsters don't really heal consistently for the one that reduces 20% to matter, leech end sorta eats your exp, the 15% max hp reduction is only important if the effect procs before you take away 15% of the monster's max hp with damage...)
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Old 10-19-2010, 07:04 PM   #5
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Curious to ask is there any guides from KRO players to GX Builds?
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Old 10-20-2010, 06:34 PM   #6
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Cross impact is nice, I think crit wins on this round though.
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Best CI GX build?
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Hi All,

If i want to reach 193ASPD. Do you think with this build below my target is attainable? All i want is to kill as fast as i can. Will consider skills later.

STR 94+6 = 100
AGI 103+7 = 110
VIT 95+5 = 100
DEX 53+7 = 60
LUK 87+3 = 90
INT 16+4 = 20

Buffs, Foods, and Equips not included. I'm planning to use +10 Infiltrator[1] (still thinking of best card to put on it)
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:43 AM   #9
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Default Re: The "help me with my build" thread, Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Edit

too much str, too much luk, personally, I'm building 2 Gxs 1 high int and 1 low int. I'd say remove 10 str and remove 20 luk, gloria should be kept up all the time from your priests. what you do with your points I'm not gunna say, but you need a bit more agi for 193 i think.
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Old 10-21-2010, 04:29 PM   #10
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Dexterity (DEX) *
- 1 point of DEX increases your hit rate by 1
- 1 point of DEX decreases your variable cast time by 0.4%.
- 4 points of DEX increases your status magic defense by 1
- 5 points of DEX increases your status magic attack by 1
- 10 points of DEX increases your status physical attack power by 1
- 10 points of DEX increases your attack speed by 1

Luck (LUK)
- 1 point of LUK increases your Critical by 0.3
- 3 points of LUK increases your status physical attack power by 1
- 3 points of LUK increases your status magical attack power by 1
- 3 points of LUK increases your hit by 1
- 7 points of LUK increases your flee by 1
- 10 points of LUK increases your perfect dodge by 1
I think with this above information, adding more DEX and average LUK i can aim 193ASPD. not sure though since this is just pure stats - no buff no foods yet as i dont want to rely on it.
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Old 10-21-2010, 05:19 PM   #11
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That info about aspd is outdated. Dex is currently useless for aspd. It might change again in the future though...

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Old 10-21-2010, 05:39 PM   #12
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oh i got it... do you have the latest calculcation? so putting more DEX is useless then. Enough DEX to dodge will be enough i guess..
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:50 PM   #13
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Default Re: The "help me with my build" thread, Assassin/Assassin Cross/Guillotine Cross Edit

Noone knows the exact formula for aspd atm, but it's mostly just based on agi and aspd pots and skills.

I'm not sure how much dex helps with poison creation though. And remember it also helps with cast time.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:05 PM   #14
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Hmm with the option of a full reset later, what would be the faster leveling build to start off as gx...? I'm thinking high str, max agi and like 60 luk with rogue treasure, with gloria it would be around 90-100 crit. Not sure bout dex and vit, guess with max agi I can just pump dex so I won't miss skilling. What ya think?
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:32 AM   #15
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mob skills are the best way to lvl, get dex before high luk. Rolling cutter and grimtooth for lvling.
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I need help deciding on a sinx build. As usual, I have two options and both have so many pros and cons that it's impossible to decide which route to go. My options are as follows:

91 Str
42 Agi
87 Vit
40 Dex
2 Luk/Int

+high HP, can possibly survive an Asura here and there
+WoE ready by level 90
+doesn't require that much equipment
-low flee
-low ASPD
-leveling
-requires EDP in WoE to be of any use


91 Str
91 Agi
34 Vit(or none if it's smarter)
40 Dex
2 Int/Luk

+high ASPD
+high flee
+easy leveling, good for item farming
+may be useful even without EDP at times(status Grimtooth and critlock)
-low HP(12k with Variants and 34 Vit, a lot less with 1 Vit), unlikely to survive Asuras even with Ghostring
-requires expensive equipment for stun immunity
-requires level 94+ to be ready for WoE


I'm leaning towards the Agi build as I enjoy PVM more than WoE, but obviously the Vit build has its moments in PVM and MVP too. Any opinions and advice is appreciated.
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How much dex you need to hit a full agi equipped GX? Is 90 dex enough?

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Old 10-22-2010, 06:04 PM   #18
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So is Counter Slash worth getting, at all?

Prereq is Weapon Block lvl 5, but not sure if Counter Slash 5 is better than Venom Impress 5 or Venom Pressure 5

FYI I tested Weapon Block on iRO Ygg Renewal during Test Phase in PvP and it activates roughly 75% of the time vs melee Skills/Atks, mostly Gfist and SB/CI

CS = 3x3 AoE Counter after Weapon Block activates, similar to TK Tornado Stance/Kick, dmg based on AGI
VI = poison res reduction
VP = higher GX Poison infection rate

Going high AGI build.

CS vs VI vs VP, mainly for WoE but also to help with leveling.
VP mainly for WoE

Any input from anyone? Thx.

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Old 10-22-2010, 07:44 PM   #19
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@Boni - it depends on how prevalent Acid Bomb is on your server.

If it's really common then the agi (1 vit) one makes more sense - otherwise the vit one is fine. Note that the agi one isn't that much use without EDP either.
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Old 10-23-2010, 07:39 PM   #20
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What do you think guys is the best build for CI type GX? how many agi should I get to chain 3 CI and how many str to boost the damage?
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