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Old 03-02-2011, 10:01 AM   #221
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I got 120 AGI. I cant really say if im just wasting my stats on it since im doing good on my crits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw4DDNCDGl0

No special buff. Got both kvm katars on +9.
I think for crit gxEs u need to max ur Agi so you can proc the KVM Katars better.

What y'all think?
has been inspired ASPD/CRIT O_O! can u tell me what equips are you using? please ty
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Old 03-02-2011, 03:12 PM   #222
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would a +10 Naght Red do? and the cards would be 2 skel 1 hydra right??

can u discuss what does EDP do now again and can some one please confirm it O_O ty!

i meant SOUL DESTROYER OR SOUL BREAKER O_O sry to make you confuse
Holy shit +10 Naght Red .... roflol , well in that case don't bother the talefing

EDP with reseach poison 10 is quite ok, still costy, althought you can kill Eremese a bit more faster and farm better poison bottle, but it's still retard situation compare to shura easyness in biolab .. I am the mob trainer with hallu and perfect dodge 100 we just need 2 shura RG type and a AB ( Thanks to remote Heal/KE/Heal )

SoulBreak is versatile probably the only skill bypassing defending aura and in string, it does kill much more faster than prerenewal ( Of course if you are kiel carded , then don't bother use any other skill but CI and SB , GX kiel carded are a pain in a ass , much more annoying than Shura )
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:21 PM   #223
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so +10 Naght red right hand and high upgrad Elemental Sword 2 skel 1 hydra again or +10 MG with 2 hydras 2 skels??

and what does EDP do in renewal?? i was reading a lot of post i cant remember it all ahah
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:36 AM   #224
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Skel + Hydra doesn't add more than Full Skel

Man +10 Nagh Red that's elite stuff , the int part of Elesword and the upgrade is wroth the 15% lost in physical part ( again it depend how does factor your STR ) but Ele sword give you a steak MATK (95*8) minimal dmg ~ 760

You need to calculate how +760=Coeff/(100+7*15)*(100+6*15) where Coeff=ATK*(STR+200)/200

EDP so far got changed to a point I can't remember , all I knnow now is on kRO baphomet EDP is dealing much more dmg with +11 Dulga + Skel than any other of my weapon on medium monster.

Currenty the last reverse engeneer seems to be accurate

EDP exchance your weapon ATK by 5 weapon ATK
and your total ATK bonus into 4

Now if you really interested how it does work really with buff, imo the way Gravity did it, it suck

Here is the example
Pre-Renewal
I was dealing 31K dmg/s
EDP = Dmg(((weapon ATK+upgrade ATK+Battle theme+Imposito+Battle Chant+Food)*Slave Provoke*Magnum Break*Max weapon+guild skill)*3

Post-Renewal
I deal 120k dmg/s BUT ...
EDP= Dmg( (weaponATK*Magnum Break*War Cry)*5+(upgradeATK+BattleTheme+Imposito+Slave Provoke+Battle Chant+Food+Striking+Enchant Blade ATK)*4+guild skill) )

You are saying were is the lost ... well the loss is due to the fact that some buff don't stack anymore... when in prerenewal you were stacking buff and get exponential factor, in post renewal you only get linear factor.

This is why it suck, as you are forced to maximize your aspd to factor enchant blade, striking, battle theme, slave provoke, food, guild skill, upgrade aTK...
Whenever you are going to use a skill, you will only factor the weapon atk and gear atk and add flat dmg from boost after...

EDP CI = 700%
EDP Aspd 192.7 = 700%
In ALL configuration possible, adding at least one buff overperform whatever config you are using for CI for same level of upgrade and atk.

The highest dmg possible with a 1 hit skill from EDP is with counter slash which will make people think twice before attacking you with melee skill BTW and then EDP Bash followed by EDP RC and EDP CI2
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Old 03-03-2011, 10:58 AM   #225
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planing to use SD/CI would the left hand weapon attack affect the dmg of CI or still its like SD?

I am good at playing i am bad at math life's that fair you know

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Old 03-13-2011, 10:15 AM   #226
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planing to use SD/CI would the left hand weapon attack affect the dmg of CI or still its like SD?

I am good at playing i am bad at math life's that fair you know
only the cards and the effect of the left hand I think.
EG, +30 attack from zipper, 20% from hydra, or 75% from BG dagger
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:04 AM   #227
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Is RagState accurate for SD?
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:05 AM   #228
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can anyone have comments on my build on lv 150/50?
base+job only:
str 90+6
agi 91+7
int 4+4
vit 92+5
dex 90+7
luk 81

notable equipments:
Giant whisper card on wool ->+5 flee, +10 att, +3% HP, +3 crit
+9 HL tidal shoes ->+10%+10% HP,+10%sp, +5% water resistant
2xrogue treasure->+20 att,+20 flee,+20 hit, +20 crit
sidewinder card on katars (sadly, idRO don't sell chickhat on kafra shop)
+7 drill katar for stripping purpose
81 luk gives 27 crit, 27 att, 27 matt, 16 flee, 27 hit

Base HP=32475
Base SP=822
Base Hit=449
Base Flee=364
Perfect Dodge=9
Base Crit=28

Not excelling on anything type LOL

Please comment...
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:37 PM   #229
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can anyone have comments on my build on lv 150/50?
base+job only:
str 90+6
agi 91+7
int 4+4
vit 92+5
dex 90+7
luk 81

notable equipments:
Giant whisper card on wool ->+5 flee, +10 att, +3% HP, +3 crit
+9 HL tidal shoes ->+10%+10% HP,+10%sp, +5% water resistant
2xrogue treasure->+20 att,+20 flee,+20 hit, +20 crit
sidewinder card on katars (sadly, idRO don't sell chickhat on kafra shop)
+7 drill katar for stripping purpose
81 luk gives 27 crit, 27 att, 27 matt, 16 flee, 27 hit

Base HP=32475
Base SP=822
Base Hit=449
Base Flee=364
Perfect Dodge=9
Base Crit=28

Not excelling on anything type LOL

Please comment...
I think too much dex.u should decrease dex and increase agi,base luk is 71 instead of 81
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:01 AM   #230
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80 luk for giant whisper card crit bonus.
Dex for +att ,hit, divest proc. Around 449+20 hit from rog treasure, CI wont miss much even to high flee char...i think.

luk 80 got gw card +crit bns, +8 perfect dodge, +16 flee.
Spent 1 point more to make it divisible by 3 for att, matt, hit and crit bns.
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:38 AM   #231
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80 luk for giant whisper card crit bonus.
Dex for +att ,hit, divest proc. Around 449+20 hit from rog treasure, CI wont miss much even to high flee char...i think.

luk 80 got gw card +crit bns, +8 perfect dodge, +16 flee.
Spent 1 point more to make it divisible by 3 for att, matt, hit and crit bns.
Could you show us the breakdown of how you were able to get 449 Flee? Thanks.
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Old 03-17-2011, 10:27 AM   #232
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about this 81 luk gives 27 crit, 27 att, 27 matt, 16 flee, 27 hit
when can i get 25 crit 25 attack 25 matt 15flee 25hit ?

and is 50 crit rate = 100 for katar users crit all the time

im noob sorry
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:27 PM   #233
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Never said 449 flee...

Iirc, luk:
-every 3 luk gives +1 to status att, status matt, flee,
-every 10 luk gives1 perfect dodge.
-every 5 luk gives 1 flee, crit shield.
-every luk gives 0.3 crit ( means 10 luk=3 crit). After i think it again 81 luk only gives 24.3 crit...

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Old 03-18-2011, 10:27 AM   #234
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i was thinking about an Atroce Drill Katar for 193 aspd has anyone tried using Atroce?
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:58 PM   #235
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proc rate on atroce card is to low to rely on
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Old 03-18-2011, 02:29 PM   #236
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about this 81 luk gives 27 crit, 27 att, 27 matt,
and is 50 crit rate = 100 for katar users crit all the time
True but every 5 luk reduce your 1 of your crit rate, 50 luk monster will reduce 10 of your crit. Well, 90 is still decent.

Anyway, if this item looks great to me.
http://db.irowiki.org/db/item-info/12321/

You can farm quite easy if you have LK or any 1hKO class for this quest.
http://irowiki.org/wiki/Tripatriate_Union%27s_Feud
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Old 03-18-2011, 03:23 PM   #237
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oh ty sir so thats how crit shield works is it the same at PvP?

how about this one http://db.irowiki.org/db/item-info/14536/

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Old 03-18-2011, 06:02 PM   #238
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I mean, 449 Hit. Could you show us the breakdown? Thanks.
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:42 PM   #239
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449 hit= base hit 175+ level 150+dex 97+luk 81/3.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:02 PM   #240
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what card would you put for WoE/PvP use pantie / undershirt combo

Porcelio/Giant Whisper or pecox2/raydric?
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