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Old 09-03-2012, 12:22 PM   #1
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Default WoE: Arrow Storm vs Auto Warg Hitlock

Between the two, which is more effective for killing in WoE? And what kind of stats & gear should I look at for both?
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Old 09-08-2012, 06:50 PM   #2
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in my opinion both builds have pro's and cons. you should make your build according to how your stlye of play is..
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Old 09-11-2012, 04:46 PM   #3
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...But a thing to keep in mind is that autowarg hitlock is not as effective until higher levels, when you have enough status points to spread, whereas arrow shower is effective as soon as you can wear the mora equipment.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:27 AM   #4
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...But a thing to keep in mind is that autowarg hitlock is not as effective until higher levels, when you have enough status points to spread, whereas arrow shower is effective as soon as you can wear the mora equipment.
Don't forget that Warg Strike is unaffected of demi-human reductions. So, for example ranger with 120+luk can much easily kill sorcerer than arrow storm ranger.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:00 AM   #5
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Default Re: WoE: Arrow Storm vs Auto Warg Hitlock

Does the warg work like the falcon did? Luk to make it attack more often and int to increase it's damage? If so how much int would a warg hitlock ranger need?
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:13 AM   #6
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Default Re: WoE: Arrow Storm vs Auto Warg Hitlock

Dex to increase warg damage, but luk still affects proc rate.
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Old 09-16-2012, 11:36 AM   #7
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I'm guessing 120 dex here, how much luk would be sufficient?
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:45 PM   #8
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if you're going straight autowarg, you only need total around 100 dex, 120 base luk and enough agi to get 193 aspd.
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Old 09-16-2012, 02:17 PM   #9
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Depends on which build you believe is the more effective at playing support, not killing. With those stats that were listed, keep in mind you won't be getting much VIT at all using that kind of balance.
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Well, one strategy is for pre-emp defense. I usually snare half the room, then I can just pick people off with aimed bolt.
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:04 PM   #11
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if you're going straight autowarg, you only need total around 100 dex, 120 base luk and enough agi to get 193 aspd.
If you use Ancient Mimic armor to get that extra aspd boost to hit 193 easier, then you really dont need over 108 luk to get the last bonus from it, and I find investing 120 in any stat really is not worth it, especially if your WoEing/PvPing with that char. To many points, not enough pay off.
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Old 09-16-2012, 11:30 PM   #12
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I'm gonna need some help with builds that hit 193 aspd, because I can only seem to get up to about 190 on the irowiki calc.
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:34 AM   #13
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if you want autowarg, i'm assuming you aren't going to be using any skills, save ankle snare, and the high base luk is for autowarg chance, with full buffs, you can get somewhere around 200 luk, and that's about 60% autowarg chance i think. imo max luk is amazing for autowarg, but i will say that if you don't have sac or the gears, you should definitely lower luk, but i wouldn't get lower than 100 base if you plan on actually killing anything.

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Old 09-17-2012, 02:22 PM   #14
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I'm gonna need some help with builds that hit 193 aspd, because I can only seem to get up to about 190 on the irowiki calc.
Is that with overupgraded Odium Boots, and Ancient Mimic Carded Armor? And you should then get an overupgraded bow with Beholder Master Card(+1 ASPD at +10, and another +1 ASPD at +14).
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Old 09-17-2012, 03:47 PM   #15
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That's probably why, I didn't use the odium boots and the effect of the beholder master card doesn't work in irowiki's stat calc.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:37 PM   #16
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Not so difficult to achieve 193 aspd with current ro condition. Just full dish sets and you are ready to go. I wouldn't even go with odium boots or beholder master card to do so.. No good for damage and durability woe-wise.

Also 120 luk is a waste of point. Just plan your equip well and achieve your dream build. I don't think ranger is born to kill in woe, especially the auto warg type. You just leave the killing to other jobs. But they definitely can be a nuisance in woe if played properly.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:38 AM   #17
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omg ranger few cells away auto attacking me what do
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:58 AM   #18
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as i noticed about warg strike, even if i have a total of 150 luk (that is 50% chance) my warg on 193 atkspd cant even do 3x proc per sec.. im expecting 7 hits/sec for 193 can somehow give me 3-4 proc per sec.. but its always once or sometimes twice per sec.. it is almost the same when my luck is around 90's only.. one thing i noticed is the animation of warg when it hits the target, it has a millisecond delay of animation..

has anyone tried to make a video while hitting a target and you are on 193 atkspd and 120+ total luk?.. then replay the video on slow motion and count how many procs of warg per sec?..
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as i noticed about warg strike, even if i have a total of 150 luk (that is 50% chance) my warg on 193 atkspd cant even do 3x proc per sec.. im expecting 7 hits/sec for 193 can somehow give me 3-4 proc per sec.. but its always once or sometimes twice per sec.. it is almost the same when my luck is around 90's only.. one thing i noticed is the animation of warg when it hits the target, it has a millisecond delay of animation..

has anyone tried to make a video while hitting a target and you are on 193 atkspd and 120+ total luk?.. then replay the video on slow motion and count how many procs of warg per sec?..
here is a video from a ranger with 193 aspd and 150 luk.
idk how to count how many auto warg per second, and how to slow a youtube video... but i think that thats no problems.
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